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Offline Animal

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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2001, 02:18:00 AM »
then why dont you get all shirtless and sweaty, take off in a 2/3 P-51D replica and land in the Skunkworks runway, and get to work?

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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2001, 03:46:00 AM »
Because we're having so much fun dumping scorn on the ugly planes you like so much, Animal.   :D

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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2001, 04:35:00 AM »
As a laid off employee from Lockheed in 1986, I can tell you, its a miracle they make a airworthy aircraft.

Not that it’s why I have that opinion; in fact, that’s why I do.

In retrospect, that’s the worst company ever, and the people I worked with there make me look up in amazement at C5B’s and C130’s how they are flying.

SCAREY stuff.

However, Boeing aircraft are simply a joy to work on.

Especially the 737-800. She is a sweet ass, modern, avionic marvel, squeak!   :)

     

Sexy, no? And well built.

I like.


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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2001, 05:09:00 AM »
Well, I work on corporate jets, not passenger planes.

The crap planes in that field are the Learjets (far too small for the ammount of crap people put in them), and the biggest coporate jets, the Gulfstreams from Grumman.

But, I speak for the electrical systems, not the mechanical ones.

Junkstars....excuse me....Jetstars from Lockheed are indeed crap with wings stuck in it.

Maybe your right.

But I think Boeing dropped the ball on the JSF because they didn't get the right prototype up and ready for the military.  Why test a prototype if it is NOT the one your actually offering to the military?

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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2001, 07:29:00 AM »
Polished floors, clean low hour airplanes, little tikes you can tow with a motorized push tug. Hmmm, I see no burden there. Your doing all right.

The 737-800 is a beast. Big and beautiful, that needs a bit of takin’ care of, but a benchmark marvel of modern aircraft.

Unlike a DC-10, she is just FINE without being a big pig.

Those corporate runners are cool, but the beauty is in the beast. She is perrty.

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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2001, 09:27:00 AM »
if lockheed had lost this contract it was only a matter of time before they were downsized to the point of being worthless as a defense contractor. That would have left the USA with one true defense contractor and I am pretty sure that was at least a partial reason why they went with lockheed.

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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2001, 10:11:00 AM »
I still go with the looks  :) Unfortunately, you couldn't just see the boeing example from that top forward view all the time. From lower angles it looked like a flying billy bass  :)

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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2001, 10:11:00 AM »
Would have been nice to let the teams work on both projects, like  it happened with the F-16 & F-18. Then we would see wich of the two JSF would have been a better plane.

This, of course, will never happen  :(

I have this feeling in my gut that the JSF was gonna be a great plane, ugly maybe, but great plane.

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« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2001, 12:21:00 PM »
It has been said Boeings model looked like a frog with it's mouth open.  It was given the nickname "Monica"  Sadly, the looks of the plane was a factor. Maybe a minor one, but a factor never the less.  I have seen vidoes of the X35 in hover, very impressive and very stable.
Rock:  Ya see that Ensign, lighting the cigarette?
Powell: Yes Rock.
Rock: Well that's where I got it, he's my son.
Powell: Really Rock, well I'd like to meet him.
Rock:  No ya wouldn't.

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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2001, 12:55:00 PM »
If the US Military doesn't want the General Dynamics' JSF, I'll take it.  I mean.. its not like they're doing anything with it anyways.

I shouldn't have a problem with external ordinance... so it meets my needs.

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