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Offline Phaser11

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« on: July 10, 2006, 06:06:15 AM »
The new name.

Lighting II

 What a great name!
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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2006, 06:20:37 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2006, 06:28:23 AM »
the name is the best ive seen so far so im glad it won

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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2006, 07:48:23 AM »
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http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=181420

Hello,

and welcome

to last week.


OK SO I'M A BIT BEHIND THE POWER CURVE THIS  WEEK:furious

I also heard the space shuttle might launch soon!

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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2006, 02:47:52 PM »
im guessing they added the II to stop confusing people that file paper...

everyone will call it a Lightning still, but if they didnt call it a II on paper, some moron in an office would confuse the P-38 and F-35.
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2006, 04:14:46 PM »
Pictures from a friend who works at Lockheed Martin of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter just out of the paint shop.








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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2006, 09:32:02 PM »
one pretty interesting thing from my frmr carreer field is the fact that this is the firs USAF plane to have a Martin Baker ejection system in about 20 or 30 years.

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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2006, 05:36:24 AM »
I think the T-6 beat the JSF back to MB seats by a few years...  Could be wrong but that's what I remember.
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2006, 05:51:24 AM »
Why is the rear view so poor in this plane?

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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2006, 06:01:54 AM »
It's not all THAT bad, but it's probably because of the space required to fit the lift fan assembly.  They'd  have to really mess with the geometry to put the seat higher and still have it come out right, with the fuselage depth required for the lift fan, single engine, internal weapons bays, etc. all competing for space.

The Boeing entry into the JSF competition had a higher seat and it looked terrible.  No plane that ugly could ever be permitted to win a USAF contract, because half of our deterrent capability is based on how cool we look :)

Seriously, it's a well known fact in the military that because a well-done military task looks very cool, anything that doesn't look cool must be a colossal foul-up and is to be avoided at all costs.  If you look like a clown, you must actually BE a clown.  If you look cool, chances are you're doing things right and nobody's going to question what you're really doing.

Guns knows what I'm talking about...  When you're looking for someone who's not doing things right, you don't have to spot the actual mistake or error.   You just look for the one person who's different or somehow "clownish" in appearance or demeanor.  That's usually the one person screwing everything up, and you can solve an awful lot of real problems with 1/10th the effort by simply identifying the clown acts and correcting them.

When you see a dude with his kevlar helmet on backwards, chances are his gas mask doesn't fit either and he tucked his chem suit into his boots.  It isn't exactly rocket science, so looking cool is quite often the natural result of doing things right.

The Lockmart JSF entry looked (relatively) cool, the Boeing one didn't.  I can't say that this affected the contract award, but the retarded look of the boeing entry sure didn't help.

That said, I think a little better rearward visibility would be nice but it's not really all that bad compared to an F-4 or F-14, and both of those planes were REALLY cool.
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2006, 10:48:52 AM »
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I think the T-6 beat the JSF back to MB seats by a few years...  Could be wrong but that's what I remember.


I wasn't  counting the T-6.  The T-38 doesn't use an ACES II either but they are modding the fleet for a new MB seat.  

I hope this is like the old ones where you don't need a dam crane to takem out.  Would be nice to be able to remove the seat with out taking off the canopy as well.  Personally I don't think they built this with my concerns in mind but it does look like a cool new addition.

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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2006, 12:53:50 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2006, 01:18:52 PM »
Err, a french flag on it?

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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2006, 01:21:23 PM »
Dutch. And a turkish flag.

France:


The netherlands:


Luxembourg: (I was confused the 1st day I got here... flags everywhere, I thought they had been invaded by Holland overnight)
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2006, 01:23:13 PM »
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Err, a french flag on it?


Funny, I don't see a white flag it at all.  ;)
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