Slavery Reparations Gaining Momentum

[RTSigma]

I still don't get why I'm in the lower-class and yet there are african-americans getting free rides to college to play football and baseball, go into the majors and making MILLIONS.

I'll pay reparations when theres no such thing as middle-class and everyone is happy and has money.

[WilldCrd]

Cant wait till ET comes down and starts demanding his cut of all the books, movies and TV shows about him/her/it
and start crying about how they are discriminated against, get shot at by fighter planes used as scapegoats for bizarr govt. testing and coverups!!.
All the abuse they have taken by being associated with the lunatic fringe of society
How they have been used to make humans (mostly white ones) rich while they got NOTHING!!!!
Wheres the righteus indignation for them??!!!

<~~kinda fits dont it?

[nirvana]

Ok, here's a true story.

Sitting in the school cafeteria one morning, a black kid walks up to me and asks for $5.  Being that I normally don't carry much, if any cash to school, I politely responded "no I don't".  He then proceeds to hound me on how it is bullsh** because my ancestors held his ancestors as slaves.  If I wasn't angry over the comment I would have laughed because as far as I know, my grandparents on my dad's side didn't immigrate until the late 1800's- early 1900's.  Same with my mom's side, only they came over a little earlier, around 1850 or so.


That being said, kids have horrible work ethics or something because almost every day I get asked for money. A quarter, a nickel, what are you going to buy with a nickel?  Like I said, it's rare for me to carry cash, so when I say no....I get the always humourous, "what a lying POS" or something along those lines.

Cheers!

[Chairboy]

Originally posted by jigsaw
It's not 2050.

Again....  so?  He said that whites were no longer the majority in 5 states, and I'm asking why that's a big deal.  Doesn't matter if it's 2006 or 2050, what's wrong?  

What exactly are you folks saying?

[lazs2]

furball is one of the smarter your-0-peeans on this or any board but... that will not stop me from going to his work and spanking him in front of all his co-workers tho.    But first.... I will tell everyone that he is my illegitimate son.

The redneck manifesto is a great book.  I would reccomend that anyone who wishes to get a liitle perspective and has a sense of humor rea.... oops... that would leave out liberals and colored people wouldn't it?

Lincoln established Liberia so that all the slaves could go back home...  no takers.   They are not like jews who can turn desert into paradise... they can turn paradise into an aides infected genocidal hell.  

There is no ghetto in the U.S. worse than the hell they make for themselves anywhere that they are in control.

lazs

[lazs2]

Oh... sandie...  Have you read "radical son"?

lazs

[Neubob]

Originally posted by Chairboy
What exactly are you folks saying?

The answer you're fishing for is that he's sensing the paradigm shift and it makes him uncomfortable. Any paradigm shift will have a similar effect, especially when the people in question had historically represented the dominant majority. Now that things are changing, he, along with the rest of us, are left to ponder the implications of such a change. Personally, I don't believe anyone, white, black, asian or hispanic, that says these demographic shifts, however gradual, don't make them at least slightly anxious. It's not about racism, it's about the end of a status quo that's always favored one single group. The fact that the new demographic cross-section will favor nobody signals the beginning of something new. For the kids of today, it will be meaningless, but for the adults, it will be visible and perhaps even play a role in their lives. It's only natural to wonder how these changes will effect each of us personally.

[Heater]

Originally posted by Vudak
If you show me one African American who was formerly a slave in this country, I'll gladly write him/her a check.

Why is is it "African American" if they were not born in "Africa" then they are NOT  African American they are just American....

[Bruno]

Originally posted by Chairboy
So?

What do you mean 'so'?

There's an established record of 'black' /Hispanic rulecontrol' going back 100s of years. There's a record of black control in certain areas / cities in the US going back decades. None of these are places are 'desirable' to live in. People who live there seek to 'escape'.

Ethiopia and Haiti have long established 'black' rule. Laz mentioned Liberia. Look at Zimbabwe or South Africa of examples of what happens when 'whites 'hand over control to the 'natives'. Look to South America for examples Hispanic rile. Mexico isn't a poor country just because... Its country that has suffered under bad government for too long and the out look for the future isn't much better. What makes you think it would be any different in the US, whether it be black or Hispanic majority control?

They will prey on each other all the while continuing to blame 'whitey'or 'Anglos'. The re-distribution of wealth will reach new levels as the new 'majority' gains the political power to 'enact justice' for years of 'oppression'. Do you think there would even be a debate on 'reparations' if blacks/Hispanics were in the majority now?

If they could rule themselves I could understand a 'so'. All the prevailing 'evidence' proves they can not. They can't do it in the US where they are under the supervision of the Consitution and the 'white majority' and they can't do it else where in the world where they have 'full control'.

[Neubob]

Originally posted by Bruno
If they could rule themselves I could understand a 'so'. All the prevailing 'evidence' proves they can not. They can't do it in the US where they are under the supervision of the Consitution and the 'white majority' and they can't do it else where in the world where they have 'full control'.

Perhaps, perhaps....

I think there's another thing to consider, though. A popular majority doesn't gaurantee control. Economic majority is a better bet. If and when these minorities manage to rise from their own filth and create wealth instead of simply leeching it, they will then become part of the conservative ruling class. Sure, the gangs will continue, the savage behavior will prevail in certain parts, but, at the same time, upward mobility among these soon-to-be former minorities will likely become more common place as well. Socio-economic strata will become less socio and more economic, and the cash will remain a deciding factor, if not THE deciding factor when it comes to political agendas. Black, brown, yellow, white or red, nobody that worked hard and earned his money ever gives it up easily or on a whim.

As for reparations, I'm sure that the new minority will have plenty of advocacy groups working hard for them.

[Bruno]

That's theory, post examples of where this has happened in the past. What has happened is as segments rise they come under attack from those 'gangs' and their wealth is 're-distributed'. The 'have-nots' will always have their demagogue who plays the two off each other in order to gain power for himself. Eventually, the 'have-nots' will split and begin fighting with each other making any future upward mobility impossible just as can be documented in any one of the nations I mentioned in my previous post.

[Chairboy]

Wow, minorities = filth?  "They" need to be ruled by whites?

The racism speaks for itself.

[Bruno]

Originally posted by Chairboy
Wow, minorities = filth?  

    
Neubob didn't say 'minorities are filth'. Why build such a strawman?

What he said was:

If and when these minorities manage to rise from their own filth and create wealth instead of simply leeching it

There is truth in that, we are all responsible for our own conditions in life and how we respond to the obstacles that life puts in front of us. Unless of course you agree with the 'poor me, please give me some money I am oppressed'...

"They" need to be ruled by whites?

[/b]

While *they may not need to be rules by 'whites' *they certainly have shown *they are incapable of 'good government' on their own. When folks show concern over the possibility that one day they may have to live under such 'poor government' it is based on on reality. As bad as the US government already is, it can get much worse.

*Wow that evil they word...

The racism speaks for itself.

[/b]

Who are you kidding, you were waiting to use the 'racism' tag ever since you started with your stupid 'who, what, where, so...' nonsense.

Whether it's racism or not is irrelevant as long as it is true.

[Neubob]

Originally posted by Chairboy
Wow, minorities = filth?  "They" need to be ruled by whites?

The racism speaks for itself.

You only see what you want to see, chairboy.

Just as Bruno astutely pointed out, You've had the racism card cocked and ready since you started fishing around a few posts back. Now that your constipated sense of righteousness has finally taken a much-needed dump, I hope you can sit back and relax.

Minorities don't equal filth. I never said that. They do, however, seem to produce and thrive in it more than the current majority. Before you call me a racist, I suggest you take a drive back down to southern california, find an area of dense concentration of any 'downtrodden minority', and compare it to the white-dominated enclave where you've made your home. And if after that you're still better than me, go ahead and move your family and your kids into that minority-dominated neighborhood(because it makes no difference, right?), live there about a year, and write back. I spent a year in South Central Los Angeles, surrounded by the people and the behavior that have formulated these unenlightened opinions. I did it voluntarily, for the experience more than anything else. Needless to say, when my lease ended, I got up and moved back to civilization.

Where does your perspective come from?

BRUNO....

In regards to your request of an example, I'm afraid I cannot give you one. This, however, does not preclude the possibility. The situation here is pretty unique, and some of the signs of positive change are there, if you look hard enough. Minorities are going seeking and receiving higher education, now more than ever, certain segments are also earning more. Based on these facts, I have to leave open the possibility that this will continue, and that as populations grow, proportionatly growing percentages will be achieving success in the old American Dream sense of the word. Either way, I'm still of the belief that the money will rule, not the numbers. The money, thankfully, is almost never found in abundance in the hands of radical anarchists.

[Maverick]

To use a descriptive term, trash is trash no matter what the color. It doesn't make a damn bit of difference what the color of the outside is if the inside is full of apathy, destructiveness, self pity and a lack of desire to improve themselves. This is not a racist stsatement, it's a statement of observation that some people could drop into paradise and make it over into a sewer or land fill because they are too damned lazy to walk to the disposal point or flush their own waste.

Other people who decide that they are willing to work to make their station in life better will succeed based on their own labor and drive, not by being given handouts on demand and kept in a basic state of survival.

If you want it, work for it and make it happen. If you can't be concerned to change your own life at least get out of the way of those who do aspire to be better and do better for their kids.