Author Topic: Seventeen...Going on Eighteen... (Read 827 times)

Dago · « **Reply #15 on:** July 14, 2006, 10:43:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
LePaul,

I didn't get the impression he was feeling sorry for the convict, just that he was so young to be so stupid. I could be wrong.

yeah, he was stupid, but age is not a factor as far as I am concerned, I know for certain that when I was 17 I knew that murder was wrong, and I didnt doubt that if I commited a murder, I would at minimum have a very good chance of spending the rest of my life in prison. I am sure the killer here knew that fact when he killed his victim.

As yee sow, so shall yee reap.

LePaul · « **Reply #16 on:** July 15, 2006, 01:28:47 AM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
LePaul,

I didn't get the impression he was feeling sorry for the convict, just that he was so young to be so stupid. I could be wrong.

If that's so, I recant my comment. Hard to "read" into text sometimes.

Angus · « **Reply #17 on:** July 15, 2006, 03:43:23 AM »

Was it an "incident" or a cold blooded murder?

lazs2 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 15, 2006, 08:48:52 AM »

If you are robbing someone and kill em..... it is murder.

It is a shame that someone so young went so wrong but... young people.... good young people die all the time to bad decisons. It is part of youth.

I feel a lot more sorry for a kid who loses control of a motorcycle and kills himself than for the kid who beats the elderly to death in order to steal from them.

The victim will be forgotten soon... the kid who dies on the freeway or battlefield will be forgotten soon... this kid will be in prison breathing up the planets air. He will be made into a sympathetic figure and be out in a couple of decades.... still a young man and able to wreak more havoc on the rest of us or.... to enjoy a long life... he will have choices that his victim did not.

It would be better for all of us if he were to simply be executed.

lazs

Angus · « **Reply #19 on:** July 15, 2006, 09:10:20 AM »

And if it was your son, being drunk and stupid, and knocking somebody dead in a single swing?

I have not very much mercy towards rotten murderers and child molestors.
I'd have shot Charles Manson for instance.

But lots of murder convicts are young and stupid, and the incident happens in a moment of frenzy and such.

And, as well, he can make license plates as well as breathing can't he

john9001 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 15, 2006, 09:27:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Angus

But lots of murder convicts are young and stupid, and the incident happens in a moment of frenzy and such.

i'm sorry judge, i'm just young and stupid.

well son, if thats the case i'm going to release you, just be more careful the next time you rob old people, they die easy. Oh and make sure they are not armed or they will kill you. Old people just don't understand "young and stupid".

Bingo73 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 15, 2006, 09:30:50 AM »

Assuming a life span of 75 years it costs roughly $805,000.00 to keep someone in prison for life.

A 7.62 mm bullet on average is about .32 cents.

Basic math for someone who murdered another to me.

And being drunk and stupid is no excuse. If you're 17 years old and don't know that it's wrong to rob someone...let alone attack a 76 year old person..then the gene pool needs a little chlorine anyway.

Did I do stupid stuff when I was younger? Sure..I still do. But if I do and I get caught then I reap what I sow. Besides...when I was a teenager I was always afraid that if I did anything REALLY stupid my parents would have kicked my ass...where were HIS parents and morals when this was happening?

lazs2 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 15, 2006, 09:33:25 AM »

My son is 6'2 and 260 lbs and can bench press 350 lbs in ten rep groups... he is quite capable of killing someone with one blow.

He is not capable of robbing a 76 year old and then killing him when he resists or trys to get away.

If he killed someone in a barroom fight then it would have to be determined if it were a mutal thing or not... a fight rather than a cold blooded intent to kill.

Manslaughter is not murder here. In most cases in the U.S. a murder charge is reduced to manslauter or murder 2 even in some of the worst cases.

In the situation you describe.... I can't imagine a murder charge being filed.

So far as I know... My son, unlike me, has only hit one human being in anger... the guy attacked him over a traffic accident and called him all kinds of vile racial crap before he started swinging. My son broke the mans jaw and gave him a concussion with one swing of the fist.

Since the attacker was a colored man... there was an investigation. All witnesses gleefuly took my sons side and the colored guy recovered from his temporary paralysis allmost the second the case was dropped. He is fully recovered.

lazs

Bingo73 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 15, 2006, 09:39:58 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
My son is 6'2 and 260 lbs and can bench press 350 lbs in ten rep groups...

lazs

That's not your son....thats a horse in disguise.
What do you feed something like that? Other than anything he wants.

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #24 on:** July 15, 2006, 10:31:51 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2

Since the attacker was a colored man... there was an investigation. All witnesses gleefuly took my sons side and the colored guy recovered from his temporary paralysis allmost the second the case was dropped. He is fully recovered.

lazs

I am glad to hear the colored guy recovered.

Angus · « **Reply #25 on:** July 15, 2006, 11:00:25 AM »

Hey there:
" well son, if thats the case i'm going to release you, just be more careful the next time you rob old people, they die easy. Oh and make sure they are not armed or they will kill you. Old people just don't understand "young and stupid"."

Understand that there is a long way between release and death penalty.

And Lazs:
"He is not capable of robbing a 76 year old and then killing him when he resists or trys to get away."

Never say never. And every boy is somebody's son.

Sandman · « **Reply #26 on:** July 15, 2006, 11:20:40 AM »

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Originally posted by Dago
Why? The person he murdered never will again.

The parents of that murdered person will never enjoy his company at a holiday dinner, nor be able to look to him for help in their old age.

Let him rot until death overtakes him, then let him answer to the Almighty.

I. Agree. With. Dago.

Heater · « **Reply #27 on:** July 15, 2006, 11:33:50 AM »

Give him the chair.... it would save a lot of money!

Angus · « **Reply #28 on:** July 15, 2006, 12:19:53 PM »

He could also plant trees and take care of sprouts to balance...the living

porkfrog · « **Reply #29 on:** July 15, 2006, 12:38:50 PM »

just some info and opinions here...

1. I hope he rots in prison. For me death would be preferable to spending my life in a cell like a caged animal. I can only imagine a few things worse than life in prison.

2. Sadly, it costs more money to execute someone than it does to provide for a life sentence. It's not like the good ol' days where justice was served quickly once a sentence was handed down. Like someone said upthread, a bullet only costs a little.

3. Arm yourself. I'm not even going to qoute statistics here. We live in a DANGEROUS world. Be prepared to defend you and yours. My grandfather has carried a gun his entire life. He said in 75 years he has only had to "draw" his weapon 1 time and it saved his life.

Live free or DIE,

-JoLLY