Author Topic: Does it ever seem like ...... (Read 1845 times)

Kurt · « **Reply #30 on:** July 19, 2006, 06:47:54 PM »

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Originally posted by SuperDud
I personally still consider that a HO. Some do, some don't.

I also think it's the context of the fight. If that situation happens to me in the MA, it annoys me a bit but I except it. In a DA setting where your trying to win through ACMs I think it's kind of a lame thing to do.

Yeah, Super, I agree in the DA things change a lot. The guys in my squad will usually define those things before the flight during the 'rules of the fight' discussion.

In the DA, if someone says front shots are prohibited I will always accomodate... DA is a whole different thing and I feel that as long as the pilots are within the rules they agree to before the fight then its all good... That can be a HO hot merge, or Front shots ok after merge, or not.

Usually when working with my squad we do cold merge, no rules after the merge. Meaning that anything you can do to spit me in half is all good.

Husky01 · « **Reply #31 on:** July 19, 2006, 06:51:06 PM »

Dark and after you said no i was on your 6 i said o ok nvm then lol member?

EagleDNY · « **Reply #32 on:** July 19, 2006, 07:02:41 PM »

Here we go again...

HO passes are just a part of the game and there is no sense whining about them. Sure it doesn't take much skill (other than good gunnery) to get a kill that way, I'm not going to whine if I get wacked that way because it is partly my fault if I do.

Face it, it takes two to make a head on merge. I could dive, or loop, or do any number of manuevers to screw up the guns solution on someone coming straight in. If I just keep on and we both open up, then I'm taking my chances (as is my opponent), and whoever gets wacked might just as well STFU and take it like a man instead of whining like a little girl on channel 200.

There are times when HO tactics are justifiable - you know, it was good enough for the luftwaffe to use on the 8th AF's B17s, so it might have some merit in some situations in AH2 as well folks. If I'm going after some suicide Lanc or B24 dive bombing my carrier, you can damn well expect me to open up head on, and aim right for the cockpit too. Good enough for the luftwaffe, good enough for me. Expect me to blaze away in a 110 as well, cause anyone that head-ons a 110 deserves what they get.

EagleDNY
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Husky01 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 19, 2006, 07:12:59 PM »

like i said on the original post im not whining just wanna know why guys do it is all:D

Lye-El · « **Reply #34 on:** July 19, 2006, 07:16:28 PM »

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Originally posted by MINNOW
Everytime I try to avoid or try to manuver past one, bang.. Dead....

I seem to have that same affliction. I started out in this game never trying to HO. Throwback to AW I think. Died trying to avoid enough times that I will now accept the HO sometimes especially if I'm in a cannon bird.

pluck · « **Reply #35 on:** July 19, 2006, 07:20:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Killjoy2

Fight A - A straight on HO from 3000 out. I go so tired of it that 50% of the time I'll take the HO because I don't care any more.

Fight B - The beginnings of an actual fight. Opps here comes the horde and you get jumped by 10 cons. Doesn't matter there's nothing you can do.

Fight C - The Boom and Zoom. This is about the only option left. Except there's AckAck way up there doing his impresion of Sputnik.

of all these i hate B the most, and unfortunately is mostly what i see. it seems like the majority of the MA enjoys having 5 guys kill 1. i seem to get frustrated a lot lately for the sole reason that people are terrified to fight without a small gang, even if it is one plane. oh well, what can you do? just strange how so many are so scared to fight and die, but yet will take shots that have such a high risk of failure. maybe its frustration for them too because if they don't get the kill before the other 6 guys jump in, their chances for a kill drop.

Husky01 · « **Reply #36 on:** July 19, 2006, 07:44:05 PM »

i agree B upsets me the most:t

nirvana · « **Reply #37 on:** July 19, 2006, 07:45:20 PM »

I'll take any shot I can get, never know when, or if, the next one will come. That being said, i'd rather not HO.

jhookt · « **Reply #38 on:** July 19, 2006, 07:50:43 PM »

what are y'all playing this game for? i play to make pixels in the shape of airplanes into the shapes of explosions. if the HO is the quickest way to do that then i will. but then again alot of my decisions come from the situation presented to me 3v1? i HO the first plane i see. 2v1 generally i try to acm but not always i think alot of it depends on your mood what you wanna accomplish on that particular sorty etc...

i ain't the greatest at dogfighting but i am tryng to improve my acm but then again there are times when the blood lust and getting my name on 200 tell me that i must HO anyone and everyone i see. i don't necessarily belive that anyone ups a plane and says to themselves "i am gonna HO" but then again i could be wrong.

but contradictory to that last statement, if i up from a vulched field i HO everyone i can because i believe that defending the base supercedes the necessity of of proper acm courtesies.

just my perspective on the matter.

Husky01 · « **Reply #39 on:** July 19, 2006, 08:20:23 PM »

thanks everyone for ur imput my original questions still hasnt been answered exactly but all this info does help a lot

MajWoody · « **Reply #40 on:** July 19, 2006, 08:36:19 PM »

I'd say 90% of ah players will ho on initial merge. Some have become quite good at hitting this way. I think its a lame way to fight. I've fought plenty of vets who will ho on every merge. Even when you wind up nose to nose & one pilot will angle off slightly & try to present a difficult target most will still ho even though it's obvious that the other pilot is trying to show that he isn't going to take the shot.

Guess we had all better get used to it because that's just the way it is now in the ma.

jamesdeanoo7 · « **Reply #41 on:** July 19, 2006, 08:42:34 PM »

Yes but I really hate it when they ho my tiger in their m3... i know just what you mean goldelks... LOL hey wait a minute....they have planes in this game ??

Husky01 · « **Reply #42 on:** July 19, 2006, 08:51:52 PM »

LMAO:rofl

Kermit de frog · « **Reply #43 on:** July 19, 2006, 09:53:08 PM »

Many people go for the HO to get a kill. There are a lot of people that can not fight because they just don't get ACM. Some people get it, and some people don't. Some people are egocentric so HO'ing is a great thing for them. They fail to understand the human problems that arise to the other player. They don't view other players as real people, but only as computer planes that are their for their enjoyment.

Husky01 · « **Reply #44 on:** July 19, 2006, 10:12:40 PM »

Thanks Kermit for your Imput much appriciated:aok