Does it ever seem like ......

[Husky01]

This is just a question but do you ever get the felling that some guys come into a fight just looking to Ho "Head on" some on? Is it becouse its the only way they can get a kill......think its funny....or what?  

If i get Hoed once or twice its no big deal "you know" its like dang that stunk but o well.... but some days it seems like all day you get Hoed every flight no matter what plane....what team your fighting..what plane your in...ext lol

Now I will admit I have hoed many a times but i try to avoid the ho at all cost, IF possible:) Also im not complaining about guys Hoing ...just asking why they do it.


just thought i ask for some imput! Thanks

[Kurt]

I honestly just think it is mostly new guys who don't have any idea how to make an attack so they drive at you and pull the trigger.  I don't think there is any big conspiracy at work.

These are the same new guys that will follow a flaming hulk down to try and get some score.

I've stopped concerning myself with it.

[SlapShot]

Now I will admit I have hoed many a times but i try to avoid the ho at all cost, IF possible

A complete contradiction if I ever saw one ...

I would say that greater than 90% of the people go for the HO or will go for the HO if presented to them.

[Edbert1]

[opinion]
Too many folks learned to play multiplayer games via Doom/Quake/UT or some other point-at-the-enemy-and-fire games. They take the lessons they learned there and point the nose at the enemy and fire without regard to angles, ACM, or even BFM.
[/opinion]

[Mako15]

well i think people do it cause they dont want to get pulled into a turnfight...being a turnfighter myself, this annoys me...but it isn't really ho'ing that bothers me...its the inevitable ram that follows

[Kurt]

Originally posted by SlapShot
90% of the people go for the HO or will go for the HO if presented to them.

If presented?

After the initial moves, yeah, if you're pointed at me, and I'm pointed at you, I'm coming down on the trigger everytime... Thats not an HO.

HO is driving right at someone from 3k out... Not when you happen to get a frontal shot in an established fight.

[ghi]

Originally posted by goldelks
This is just a question but do you ever get the felling that some guys come into a fight just looking to Ho "Head on" some on? Is it becouse its the only way they can get a kill......think its funny....or what?  

If i get Hoed once or twice its no big deal "you know" its like dang that stunk but o well.... but some days it seems like all day you get Hoed every flight no matter what plane....what team your fighting..what plane your in...ext lol

Now I will admit I have hoed many a times but i try to avoid the ho at all cost, IF possible:) Also im not complaining about guys Hoing ...just asking why they do it.


just thought i ask for some imput! Thanks

  Tasting your " red wine" I find myself guilty !
,cuz i Ho a lot, but i Ho vulchers and those cherry pkrs at the end of the runway,99% in IL2,  always on caped bases, after getting vulched a lot, but is my masochist fun !
  now ,you tell me what's more "dirty"job:

--vulching, or Hoing vulchers??!

Btw, i have 2 pairs of green boots made from your NIKI skin
 

[Husky01]

Lol ghi you do seem to ho me a lot all in good fun

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Kurt
If presented?

After the initial moves, yeah, if you're pointed at me, and I'm pointed at you, I'm coming down on the trigger everytime... Thats not an HO.

HO is driving right at someone from 3k out... Not when you happen to get a frontal shot in an established fight.

If I am pointing at you and you are pointing at me (both have guns solutions) and you come down on the trigger ... you have just HOed. It doesn't matter what the distance is (prior to the merge) that consitutes an HO ... it's determined if there is a valid guns to guns solution.

I like to merge just "nose off" ... and in 99% of those merges ... people are working the controls to take the HO with me ... even tho I have no intentions of firing on the merge. I am just setting up for the first turn. They usually fail miserably in their frantic HO attempt and then proceed to die within 1 to 2 turns ... if they stick around.

[Mugzeee]

Ok...heres a question. Lets say 2 Spitfires are coming right at each other nose to nose...On the merge neither shoot but rather try to setup for a guns pass on the next merge...however...both pilots pull the same maneuver and end up nose to nose once again...one goes for the shot...the other tryes to avoid....was this un-sporting of the shooter..or stupid of the shootie?

Originally posted by SlapShot
I like to merge just "nose off" ... and in 99% of those merges ... people are working the controls to take the HO with me ... even tho I have no intentions of firing on the merge. I am just setting up for the first turn. They usually fail miserably in their frantic HO attempt and then proceed to die within 1 to 2 turns ... if they stick around.

Yeah...and some guys have gotten very good at ruddering out of the slipstream and laying bullets on front of your nose off merge. Is that still an HO?

[SunKing]

Originally posted by Kurt
I honestly just think it is mostly new guys who don't have any idea how to make an attack so they drive at you and pull the trigger.  I don't think there is any big conspiracy at work.

Agreed. The new player that doesn't understand ACM yet points the nose at an enemy and fire away , extend,  turn and repeat. It's annoying when you try to avoid it and they remove your aileron.  But if they don't know any better



But they sure seem to learn quick that the George has cannon loadout for their limited style.

[Husky01]

I wouldnt say unsporty ..you might call it fair the other piolt may call it a cheap shoot..i say all in all its up to the piolts mind wheather its sporty or not.

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Mugzeee
Ok...heres a question. Lets say 2 Spitfires are coming right at each other nose to nose...On the merge neither shoot but rather try to setup for a guns pass on the next merge...however...both pilots pull the same maneuver and end up nose to nose once again...one goes for the shot...the other tryes to avoid....was this un-sporting of the shooter..or stupid of the shootie?

I don't know ... I would say that after the initial merge ... its all good.

If  I am going 1 v 1 with a guy and we are all alone and the fight is a good one ... I will forego the HO if presented ... I would rather work for the manuver kill ... but that is just me.

Now ... like I said above ... it has to be guns to guns. If I have a high deflection shot (meaning you have no viable guns solution but I have a snap-shot) I will take it and try to shoot yer eye out. Some people actually think that this type of shot is an HO ... when it really isn't.

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Mugzeee
Yeah...and some guys have gotten very good at ruddering out of the slipstream and laying bullets on front of your nose off merge. Is that still an HO?

NOPE ... cause I don't have a guns solution on them ... I call that a good shot ... but ya better make it ... else you are dead.

[SuperDud]

I HO as often as possible, it's actually pretty fun to joust. Anymore I just take up a 110 or IL2 and go for the HO. It's amazing how many will gladly enter into this. When someone doesn't attempt this I know I'm dead. Not because of the plane they are flying, but b/c they have a clue and my plane ain't gonna stand up to theirs in an actual fight. Sadly, this only seems to happen 1 outta 10 times.