Author Topic: Pat Buchanan is Right (Read 2199 times)

Sandman · « **Reply #60 on:** July 23, 2006, 10:20:10 PM »

VFTR?

Toad · « **Reply #61 on:** July 23, 2006, 10:24:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash

What a wonderful insight into your thoughts. I'm so glad that you decided to share them, even if you had to pull them outta yer arse.

Well, I don't believe I did. I believe what happened is some folks pulled some instant admiration for Pat outta their asses. And I think they actually value Pat about as much as what usually comes outta there.

As for my take on the transcript (nope, didn't watch it... is the transcript complete?) I agree with some of what he says but not all of it. There's quite a bit of conjecture, less of substance.

But he was absolutely 100% correct about the Swift boat guys and Kerry.

Nash · « **Reply #62 on:** July 24, 2006, 12:59:34 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Well, I don't believe I did. I believe what happened is some folks pulled some instant admiration for Pat outta their asses.

Of course you do.

Funny thing is, when going back and reading the posts that preceded your revelation, I just don't see the "instant admiration for Pat." It would be slightly interesting to see what you consider to be admiration for Pat, but I don't really care. Admiration for Pat (or lack thereof) didn't have a thing to do with the subject despite you wanting so much for it to be.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #63 on:** July 24, 2006, 01:49:56 AM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
VFTR?

Vote From The Rooftops

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #64 on:** July 24, 2006, 01:50:45 AM »

Instant admiration for Pat? I've admired him since I was 20 years old or so FWIW. He's flawed but who isn't?

lazs2 · « **Reply #65 on:** July 24, 2006, 09:00:44 AM »

"If corporations control the government and the government controls everything, then total corporate control is the same as total government control. Get a helmet and VFTR."

"Control" would not be the right word but you have the idea... the real word is more like "symbiotic" They use each other to broaden their powers... like the old kings and religious leaders... when they fight we get screwed... when they cooperate... we get screwed.

I worry tho when people like sandie are conned into thinking that a bigger and more powerful government will protect them from the corporations and special interests. The government is just a corporation and special interest.

All we need it a small government with a very plain and strong bill of rights.

My problem with people like sandie and groups like the aclu is that they want a strong government that regulates everything. One that considers the will of the people over that of basic human and individual rights.

lazs

Sandman · « **Reply #66 on:** July 24, 2006, 09:34:34 AM »

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[BMy problem with people like sandie and groups like the aclu is that they want a strong government that regulates everything.
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My problem with people like Lazs is that they don't have a clue what I want and yet they go on and on thread after thread as if they do.

Sandman · « **Reply #67 on:** July 24, 2006, 10:31:32 AM »

Meanwhile... back on the topic of Bush. Buckley: Bush Not A True Conservative

Mini D · « **Reply #68 on:** July 24, 2006, 10:40:32 AM »

So... the guy doesn't really have to say anything as long as he's critical of bush? Gotcha sandy. You're proving lazs' point for him.

Sandman · « **Reply #69 on:** July 24, 2006, 11:04:18 AM »

Lazs had a point?

Mini D · « **Reply #70 on:** July 24, 2006, 11:09:42 AM »

Lazs had more of a point than the guy in the link you posted. You champion anyone that criticizes bush no matter who they are.

Sandman · « **Reply #71 on:** July 24, 2006, 11:30:17 AM »

Did you have a point that's on topic?

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"I think Mr. Bush faces a singular problem best defined, I think, as the absence of effective conservative ideology — with the result that he ended up being very extravagant in domestic spending, extremely tolerant of excesses by Congress," Buckley says. "And in respect of foreign policy, incapable of bringing together such forces as apparently were necessary to conclude the Iraq challenge." -William F. Buckley

Mini D · « **Reply #72 on:** July 24, 2006, 11:44:56 AM »

Wow... no you're just getting to the selective quotes because half of the rest of what he said was downright silly.

You need to learn about context, sandy. Then you really need to work on considering it. I know it's a pipedream because this is the major shortcoming of the entire democratic party these days, but I can be optimistic.

Sandman · « **Reply #73 on:** July 24, 2006, 12:51:03 PM »

I'll take that as a "no."

Thanks for playing.

Mini D · « **Reply #74 on:** July 24, 2006, 01:28:28 PM »

Playing? You haven't served yet. As a matter of fact, you haven't really done anything other than selectively quote people and pretend that means anything other than you have a tendancy to pick and chose statements and pretend that means something.

Is that the game you were trying to play?