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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #75 on: July 24, 2006, 02:28:03 PM »
sandie... you may not have admitted to it but mini has you pegged... you will agree with any liberal socialist idea put forth on here and any anti Bush thread.

I am no fan of Bush myself but... he is still better than most of the guys you quote and you would vilify if they weren't speaking against Bush at the time.

I am sure that I am not the only one to find it amusing that your new heros are the likes of Pat and William F.


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« Reply #76 on: July 24, 2006, 03:48:37 PM »
I'll admit that you guys can't have a discussion without categorizing and labeling the participants.

Other than that, you've got nothing. You don't want to talk about Buchanan or Buckley. Fine, move on.
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« Reply #77 on: July 24, 2006, 04:34:48 PM »
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I'll admit that you guys can't have a discussion without categorizing and labeling the participants.


That's the biggest liberal tell...

Not that I care but Sandman you have history on the forums and only judging from that you certainly fit the liberal, socialist mold. Maybe not as extreme as some but close enough... I know, don't label me etc...

Like others I don't see what is so 'worth mentioning' about either Pat's or Bill's comments presented in this thread. Both have been very critical of Bush and Republicans in the past. Pat has been right on a lot of things for the longest time.

What was this thread about anyway? Have you reached some epiphany and decided that true conservatives were right all along? Or were you just sticking it to Bush through Pat and Bill?
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Offline midnight Target

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« Reply #78 on: July 24, 2006, 04:41:15 PM »
Maybe it was an opinion from a guy who is not generally known as a liberal that was agreeable to a liberal? Maybe that's all it was. Maybe Pat isn't anyones "new hero".
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« Reply #79 on: July 24, 2006, 05:06:27 PM »
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Maybe it was an opinion from a guy who is not generally known as a liberal that was agreeable to a liberal? Maybe that's all it was. Maybe Pat isn't anyones "new hero".


Or it could that a liberal who hates labels stumbled across something that a conservative commenter said counter to the position of the conservative President. Then uses such statement on a forum to show that 'wow maybe he isn't the liberal we all thought..'

Anything is possible.

Pat was highly critical of NAFTA and other such issues that play well with the left. I guess Pat's opinion of the situation with Israel and  Hizbu'llah was some how deserving of discussion. Pat didn't support war with Iraq either but I don't recall reading any 'I agree with Pat' threads by the anti-Iraq war types back then.

People will be suspicious of others motives when it comes to things like this. That's just how it is...
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« Reply #80 on: July 24, 2006, 09:21:30 PM »
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Not that I care but Sandman you have history on the forums and only judging from that you certainly fit the liberal, socialist mold. Maybe not as extreme as some but close enough... I know, don't label me etc...


For another thread... Pick your questions/issues. Ask me straight up. Keep an open mind and don't try to paint me into some preconceived picture you have drawn up in your head with some agenda you wish to assign to me. I object to the labels liberal and conservative because it treats each as being mutually exclusive, as if a person can't see things in both agendas that are agreeable. I object to the red/blue labels as if a person can't agree with both the Democrats or the Republicans given a particular issue.

With that, I'm done talking about me in this thread.

Now... Let's talk about Bruce Bartlett or maybe columnist Fred Barnes or maybe Doug Bandow or maybe William Bryk.
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« Reply #81 on: July 24, 2006, 09:31:29 PM »
Are there "disaffected conservatives"?

Sure there are.

I'm pretty sure most folks here think I'm a diehard conservative or even Republican but I didn't vote for Bush in the last election.

I could have voted against him the first time he ran if the Democrats had found a better man to run than Gore.

I, and many others I believe, feel we are always voting for the "lesser of two weevils" as Aubrey said. I still think it's amazing that the Democrats couldn't find a man to beat Bush in two tries.

Or as Lewis Black puts it:

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"It's not like I'm saying Kerry would have been any better. Let's face it. When you when into that voting booth, you had a choice between two bowls of s***. The only difference was the smell. How did you Democrats find Kerry? What's the matter with you people? ... The first time I heard him speak, I thought ... 'I don't have enough bread crumbs to get me home.' The fact of the matter is the Democrats not being able to find somebody to defeat George Bush is beyond belief. It's stunning. It would be like finding a normal person who would lose in the Special Olympics."
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« Reply #82 on: July 24, 2006, 09:32:30 PM »
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With that, I'm done talking about me in this thread.

I call them out for going ad hominem instead of dealing with the topic at hand.  So they... step up the ad hominem crap.  :rolleyes:
These guys have the debate skills of early hominids...
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« Reply #83 on: July 24, 2006, 09:37:39 PM »
Lewis Black was dead on.
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« Reply #84 on: July 24, 2006, 09:39:38 PM »
Liberalism is truly a mental disorder
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« Reply #85 on: July 24, 2006, 09:44:49 PM »
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Liberalism is truly a mental disorder


How special.
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« Reply #86 on: July 24, 2006, 10:03:10 PM »
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Liberalism is truly a mental disorder


somebody got a spell checker.
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« Reply #87 on: July 24, 2006, 10:20:43 PM »
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I'm incapable of constructing factually based arguments so I am just going to start calling names.
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« Reply #88 on: July 24, 2006, 11:07:49 PM »
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Meanwhile... back on the topic of Bush. Buckley: Bush Not A True Conservative



That headline is misleading. Buckley never said "Bush Not A True Conservative"I just watched the video, you can check it out from your own link.
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« Reply #89 on: July 24, 2006, 11:13:55 PM »
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That headline is misleading. Buckley never said "Bush Not A True Conservative"I just watched the video, you can check it out from your own link.


Damn... it uses Real Player for the vid. No wonder I missed that. Hate that program.
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