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Offline WhiteHawk

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« on: July 22, 2006, 07:37:49 PM »
Posted a paranoia rant a cupple months ago after I became enraged that fluoride, we know it as a dental miracle, was actually quite toxic.  More so than lead.  I have been trying to find out who is insisting that this crap be injected into our water.  Let me say that again.  Somebody, namely the ADA, American dental association, has somehow gotten the govt to spring for a method to inject fluoride directly into our water which gets in our blood which flows through our brains, without doing any real long term research on it.  (They couldnt use mice as sodium fluoride was used as a rat poison until recently).  So we, in effect are the long term research.  Here is a recent news article that was sent to me..


A coalition of health and environmental groups have filed a petition with the
EPA, indicating the agency has violated federal laws for establishing allowable
levels of fluoride pesticide residues in foods. The petition comes on the heels
of over 7,000 EPA employees calling for stronger limitations of fluoride in food
and water, as well as a recent report from the National Academy of Sciences
indicating the average American diet has unsafe levels of fluoride.
Specifically, the petitioners (including Fluoride Action Network, Beyond
Pesticides and Environmental Working Group) are asking the EPA to prohibit the
use of sulfuryl fluoride in food production. Elevated levels of fluoride are
associated with bone fractures, thyroid function losses, IQ deficits, bone
cancer, and Alzheimer's disease. The EPA has posted a public comment period on
the issue ending August 4, 2006. Learn more and take action here:
"http:http://www.organicconsumers.org/rd/fluoride.htm"


I was thankful that I could spring for the case of aquafina to bypass the guinea pig thing and see what happens to everybody else.  Now, somebody is insisting that keeping fluoride out of food is somehow, not possible. Hmmm,
dont let your kids drink fluoridated water and make sure they spit out the darn toothepaste, just in case.
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2006, 07:39:13 PM »
Bottled water...

Spell "Evian" backwards. ;)
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2006, 07:44:08 PM »
Oh god...not again...:noid
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2006, 08:06:12 PM »
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Oh god...not again...:noid


People who only have one green tooth in thier head and pass that along to their children should not concern theirselves with this thread.:aok   Move along dude.

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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2006, 08:09:30 PM »
Nevermind.
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2006, 08:27:51 PM »
Are ya sure.  Its saturday night.  Im in the mood for a good debate.  You like fluoride in your water?  I think its a bit rude to polute everybodys drinking water with toxic chemicals?

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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2006, 08:36:47 PM »
I dont know enough on the subject to debate for either side. Im content with keeping my un-educated opinion to myself. But generally, I think there are more serious things for us to worry over.
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2006, 08:39:19 PM »
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Are ya sure.  Its saturday night.  Im in the mood for a good debate.  You like fluoride in your water?  I think its a bit rude to polute everybodys drinking water with toxic chemicals?


Go drill a well you paranoid phobe  lol

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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2006, 08:42:33 PM »
water is evil

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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2006, 08:59:55 PM »
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I dont know enough on the subject to debate for either side. Im content with keeping my un-educated opinion to myself. But generally, I think there are more serious things for us to worry over.


Not so.  Fluoride is toxic.  Unit per unit, fluoride is more toxic than lead.  They make us scrape lead off of our house.  They inject fluoride into our water.  Fluoride is only benificial to the teeth as a topical aplication.  That means one can rinse with fluoirde and have the same effect as or more as drinking fluoride.  Given that fluoride is a known poison, (this is not a paranoid rant, it is a fcat.  Exterminators use sodium fluoride to kill rats and apparently it is used as a pesticide) it is highly presumptuois to assume that we will all appreciate the forced injection of fluoride into our, brains, as it turns out.  Especially when we can reap the same efffects by rinsing  with a fluoridated rinse, and bypass all of the "risk" in the 'benifit outweighs the risk' argument.  Also, to put fluoride into the drinking water is most suspicious since 99.95% of the water in every house goes down the drain.  That is a rediculous waste of taxpayer money and only a pinhead would even consider this method of fluoride delivery if dental hygiene were the true purpose.  So, the question is, is this really the safest most efficient way to shore up the enamal in ones mouth?  Or is there a further darker more sinister purpose lurking in the shadows?  Muhahahhahahhahahha.  By the way, foriegn companies are gobbling up water treatmane facilities in the US at an alarming rate.  If I were a terrorist and I wanted to wipe out a bunch of cities very quietly, I may just tweak the fluoride nozzle a bit and waith a cupple of months.

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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2006, 09:02:19 PM »
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Go drill a well you paranoid phobe  lol


 I will, and you keep on guzzlin that tap water.  We both happy.

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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2006, 10:08:34 PM »
Chemicals aren't always linear in their toxicities.

Lets take Sodium Chlorida, table salt.  Very low intake of salt causes health problems and possibly death.  One to five milligrams of salt is needed to thrive.  Higher intakes cause health problems.  Very high intake causes death.

I don't know a whole lot about Fluoride.  I would say very low doses have beneficial effects on health.  Higher doses could be harmful.

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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2006, 10:16:37 PM »
Whitehawk, stick to ACM and MA strat :p
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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2006, 10:17:14 PM »
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I will, and you keep on guzzlin that tap water.  We both happy.


My tap water doesn't have fluoride. :)
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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2006, 10:21:05 PM »
What is UL of DV for fluoride?