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Offline lukster

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Socialist Union of the United States?
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2006, 01:56:47 AM »
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Protectionism is import tarrifs on competitive products, our beef products into the US get heavily tarrifed, this money goes into the goverment coffees but not necessarily back to US beef farmers. Subsidies is taking your taxes and giving them to the farmers as a sort of social-welfare system.

Its still socialism comrade funked.


Because we do subsidize farmers and support many with welfare does make us socialistic but that still has nothing to do with protectionism.

Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2006, 02:06:06 AM »
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Protectionism is retarded from a strictly economic point of view, but from a national security point of view it makes sense.  Outsourcing our manufacturing capability is retarded enough (see steel).  I'm usually quick to ***** about government subsidies and how they undermine the free market (and our entire political system), but I look at farm subsidies as national security spending.  Outsourcing our food production could be disasterous in wartime.


I agree with that

Same here really. We have always had a high import tax on foreign foods to maintain foodproduction. There is no way in hell we could maintain landbased food production here if we did not protect it. Other countries further south have a warmer climate and bigger fields that gives more and larger harvests. It is not a good idea to be dependant on others for the basics like food and water. Farming without subsidies would have been killed many years ago.

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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2006, 07:39:09 AM »
"Protectionism" LOL...  

No one wants to give market access to the USA but expects the USA to give up their farm subsidies.     What kind of good deal is that?  That line of thinking seems to be more like socialism.  Expect the rich to bend over for the poor.  If the USA is to give up a dollar they should expect a dollar worth in return..  Now that's fair..  And is much more like capitalism...



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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2006, 09:12:35 AM »
In most states there is no tax on foodstuffs.

I would be happy with no subsidies but no taxes on farmers for anything.

Food is important.. the government should not be able to extort them.

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