Author Topic: Specter Prepping Bill to Sue Bush (Read 902 times)

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #30 on:** July 26, 2006, 07:24:24 AM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
A line item veto would mean that the added trash or pork on a bill that some one in Congress added to the original law could be dropped without having to trash the entire law like the system is now. In practice, more good law could be accomplished and less pork that someone added as a requirement to gain their vote to get the law passed.

Exactly. While I think the line-item veto gives the President too much power, I don't see any other way to filter out the crap coming out of Congress.

eagl · « **Reply #31 on:** July 26, 2006, 07:43:29 AM »

Why does this guy Bill have to do all the work? Can't Specter do his own dirty work?

lazs2 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 26, 2006, 08:42:48 AM »

A line item veto could not be missused... it does not take out sentances or words that affect the bill.... It simply takes out all the unrelated pork that is attached to a bill..... or not.

And there is the rub.. a democrat pres would leave in all the welfare state stuff and a republican would leave in his lobyist stuff..

What we really need is a one item per bill law.

not.... Drill in Alaska and... fund the carl marx pre school for every child in the U.S. in five languages. And... build a 400 million dollar bridge over dry land in toad suck ferry ak.

Pick one and vote on that only... then we will know what our representitives are doing... as it is... they can say that they voted for or against only one of the myriad of items on a bill.

It is an honesty and morality loophole for basicaly dishonest and amoral people.... politicians.

lazs

john9001 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 26, 2006, 08:47:37 AM »

congress can over-ride a presidents veto. it needs a two-thirds majority of both houses.

Maverick · « **Reply #34 on:** July 26, 2006, 02:21:17 PM »

Laz,

A line item veto or a one subject per bill limit would both work. Either is a decent concept and then drops it back into Congress' lap to do what they will about it.

Those 2 branches of Govt. don't have to always get along byt they do have to work together. I have no doubt that as long as Congressmen are inclined to put pork and trash into vital legislation they will continue to fight a line item veto.

It would be nice to have something like the hypoctaric oath for Senators and Legislators. You knhow they swear to first do no harm or something like that, but then again we already know how well they keep their word anyhow.

lazs2 · « **Reply #35 on:** July 27, 2006, 10:24:00 AM »

mav.. I agree. A bill should be a one item only deal. As I said... to be able to attach riders to a bill is just a morality and honesty loophole for our scum bag politicians.

They can say that they voted for or against a bill based on one or more of the riders and therfore hide from their agenda.

lazs