Future ideas brainstorm

[Krusty]

Please keep this on topic. I've got a few minutes at work and am on the forums. I thought I'd read up on future scenario suggestions, but didn't see a thread.

If there is, my apologies, I didn't notice it.

These are general ideas. The specifics can be hammered out by whomever wishes, in another thread.

There have been a couple of scenarios that feature new terrains, tokyo and karelia specifically, but these are ideas that go off of terrains we already have.

Midway (SBDs and Vals vs CVs, ack reduced to 0.4, much scouting, escort, intercept, attack. Reduce strength of CVs to require 3 good hits to sink)

Battle of Britain (We did one in '04 that re-wrote all the rules. How about one that recreates the event, as it was, with all the rules intact?)

Name TBD (1942 Brits start attacking LW airfields in France to draw out the fighters -- using boston III's for light bomber substitute, using LANCS for small-and-medium-sized raids on STRAT, escorts Hurr2 and spitV vs 109E4,F4, maybe spit9 and 190a5 for last frames)



Other thoughts?

[Vudak]

I would personally like to see an 8th AF vs. Luftwaffe '43 or '44 event.  It seems to have been awhile (although I'm sure they've been done over and over and over again).

I just have this itch to escort some bombers in a 47 or 51

Either that or an Okinawa or Iwo Jima scenario sometime in the future (too similar to Downfall for now).  Maybe with more of a ground element attached, not that we really have many gvs or any inf to do it with.

[Nifty]

No rerun of Battle of Britain until the He111 is modeled.    At least that's my opinion.

We did a Midway one not too long before Battle of Britain did we not?  For Pacific stuff, I wouldn't mind doing a "what if" type of thing where the Japanese were not able to take the Philippines and we could do some early war Pac stuff while having some CBI influence (P-40's and Spits/Hurris.) That would give us opportunity for some CV vs CV action that you mentioned as well as some IJN vs P-40 action.  Not sure if the Philippines terrain is still available.

The 1942 setup you mentioned sounds like a lot of fun. I'd enjoy that one.

If we had the ground vehicles for it, and more people actually enjoyed ground vehicles, I'd say a North Africa one could be entertaining.  Though it still might be.  Sicily was a fun one (or was it Malta, all I remember was leading a P-38 flight with half Mongrels and half FDB)!  Again, not sure the Tunisia terrain is still available.

When's the last time we've done an 8th Air Force one?  Big Week was a looong time ago, but still, that was a blast (even though I got stuck in a FW190A-8 against my vehement protests )

[jordi]

I am always up for a Pearl Scenario . ..

8th OPS would be good. I liked the idea we used where a critical part of the score was how many bombs the bombers got on a LARGE Target tile. That equated the idea of CEP (radius of circle centered on the Aiming Point, containing 50% of the pattern centers) and getting the bombs on the target. Not everyone in the bomber group had to be perfect bomber - but it helped to have a few good ones leading each group.

[Roscoroo]

were running an Scenario after downfall and befor Pearl ...

(I'm not at liberty to say which one ... but We know it works already)

[Krusty]

Somebody mentioned Pearl in the Downfall forum. I'll post what I posted there here as well.

How can you get a full scenario out of Pearl? It's a 1-time short-span sneak attack. There's just no way the allies will have anything to do, and there's no way the japanese will have anything to do outside of the 1 frame.

For it to be a scenario, it has to be 2-ways, methinks.

[mrmidi]

Pearl?

Wasn't that what we just had this past saturday (code named downfall)

except it was out to sea.......

[Krusty]

New idea:

Jet Age:
Against greater numbers, a small unit of jet fighters and bombers must establish themselves in Nazi Germany. They will be covered at first by Doras (when vulnerable) and Ta152s (when in the air) as they brave the massive Allied juggernaught. Their goal is to do as much damage as they can to halt the Allied invaders, including intercepting B17s, B24s, and even taking up the new Arado to strike back at tactical targets.


It's not as easy as you think, the 262 is horrible at dogfighting, the Arado has very short range and weak payload, and can easily be caught by late war Allied planes.

[Nifty]

Originally posted by Krusty
Somebody mentioned Pearl in the Downfall forum. I'll post what I posted there here as well.

How can you get a full scenario out of Pearl? It's a 1-time short-span sneak attack. There's just no way the allies will have anything to do, and there's no way the japanese will have anything to do outside of the 1 frame.

For it to be a scenario, it has to be 2-ways, methinks.

I'm sure if they did Pearl for a full scenario, it would involve a "what if" situation.  What if Japan intended to invade and hold the Hawaiian Islands, and what if the United States knew of the plan and was prepared to defend the Hawaiian Islands?

That could work and be fun.

[jordi]

Originally posted by Krusty
Somebody mentioned Pearl in the Downfall forum. I'll post what I posted there here as well.

How can you get a full scenario out of Pearl? It's a 1-time short-span sneak attack. There's just no way the allies will have anything to do, and there's no way the japanese will have anything to do outside of the 1 frame.

For it to be a scenario, it has to be 2-ways, methinks.

The Pearl Scenario was a smashing success 2 years in a row back in the Air Warrior Days.

It is usually a 3 frame event - then both sides CHANGE Sides and do 3 more frames.

There is a dedicated TEAM ZEKE that flies fighters for the IJN Both times.

The 3 frames equate to the 3 waves of attacks the IJN Sent against Pearl.

The US does get to some LIMITED Patrolling like it was a regular sunday morning so there is a chance the US Spots the IJN Attack wave and gets a few extra minutes warning and can get some planes off the runway and into the air. But it will not be a cake walk for the IJN Side either. Even with suprise they have to get BOMBS / TORPS on targets. It does no good to shoot down a bunch of US Fiters if they can not bomb the targets and sink the BB's and any CV's that may show up.

With the side swap if one side DOES feel they are at a disadvantage they get to turn the tables and try it from the side they feel did have the advantage and see how much ofa real difference there is.

Iam cure the CM's can fill in more as needed. The above is just going off of the AW version. Heck the fleets MOVE Now - we did not have that int he good old days.

[Krusty]

Well.... In Pearl they're not SUPPOSED to move!

[1ijac]

I enjoyed the Pearl Harbor scenarios I've participated in.  


one-eye

[jordi]

Originally posted by Krusty
Well.... In Pearl they're not SUPPOSED to move!

Well the IJN just want the US Ships to move in a DOWNWARD direction.

[Krusty]

I got an idea, but I don't know if it will work.

When you look at stats, can you tell how many lbs of bombs were dropped on something, even if that something wasn't destroyed?

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by Krusty


Midway (SBDs and Vals vs CVs, ack reduced to 0.4, much scouting, escort, intercept, attack. Reduce strength of CVs to require 3 good hits to sink)
 

Don't forget the Torp planes

-Sik