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Offline DREDIOCK

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« on: July 28, 2006, 02:47:16 PM »
Yea baby.
It aint alot. but its a start.

Oh and thats $1,000 per occurance

1 illegal +$1,000
2 illegals =$2,000

And so on and so forth

Now if only all the other townships in the country had the gonads to do this


 By BONNIE PFISTER

Of The Associated Press

TRENTON -- The southern New Jersey community of Riverside has banned the hiring and housing of undocumented immigrants.

The Township Council unanimously approved the "Illegal Immigration Relief Act,’’ making renting or leasing property to a person who cannot prove he or she is legally in the United States a violation punishable by fines starting at $1,000. Employing such individuals would incur a similar penalty, and could cost employers their local business license.

The five-member council affirmed the proposal Wednesday before a noisy crowd of several hundred people, whose numbers forced the group to relocate from town hall to a high school auditorium.

The ordinance mirrors one passed earlier this month in Hazleton, Pa. Local governments across the country -- from California to Idaho to Florida -- are considering similar actions. This is believed to be the first such ordinance passed in the Garden State.

A town of 8,000 located in Burlington County, about halfway between Camden and Trenton, Riverside Township is unofficially home to between 1,500 and 3,500 illegal immigrants, mostly from Brazil, according to Mayor Charles Hilton.

Municipal leaders say the influx has crowded schools and housing, strained public services and made parking spaces scarce.

Newspaper reports of the meeting describe a jeering, flag-waving crowd that shouted down a Latino minister who raised concerns about racial profiling. A recess was called and several people were escorted out by eight police officers -- half the town’s force.

It was not clear how soon the ordinance would take effect, who would enforce it, or the cost of training township employees in verifying federal immigration documents. Riverside Township’s solicitor told The Philadelphia Inquirer for Thursday’s editions that an amendment to clarify the language would be forthcoming. Neither Hilton nor top township officials returned several phone messages left Thursday.

Angela Mateo-Gonzalez, director of Servicios Latinos de Burlington County, said many longtime Riverside residents are legitimately frustrated about such public safety issues as overcrowded apartments catering to low-wage residents.

But such concerns should be addressed by enforcing existing codes applying to all building owners, she said. She called the mood at the council meeting disturbing.

"I think it’s going to increase racial tension,’’ Mateo-Gonzalez said. "A veteran told me he was at the grocery store and he got racial comments. He fought in two wars for this country. You don’t want to go back to a time where if you have different color skin, people will look at you differently.’’

Martin Perez, president of the Latino Leadership Alliance, said Riverside’s new law would be discussed at a board meeting this weekend, and a lawsuit to oppose it could be forthcoming.

He said his group met with leaders in Freehold last year to urge them away from ordinances over crowded housing that he said were discriminatory.

"It’s a housing code problem, not an immigration problem,’’ Perez said. "Often they realize the problem is more complicated than they thought at first.’’


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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2006, 02:50:01 PM »
yep.. the only way to stop the problem is to take away those who are making it happen...

The money changers that are profiting by this new age form of slavery.

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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2006, 02:53:37 PM »
what a great start.  Go after the source.  :aok

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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2006, 04:30:38 PM »
yup until the ACLU and the Hispanic political groups get their little town ordinance shot down for some sort of misinterpretation of some words in the Constitution or by some anti-dicrimination law.
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2006, 04:34:52 PM »
That's awesome

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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2006, 04:36:34 PM »
One of the best parts is the town is made up of largely (legal) Portuguese immigrants.
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2006, 09:41:06 AM »
Now why would you guys think that the ACLU would go after this case?

I mean... there are thousands of human rights violations going on right now that are more grievous...  They could not possibly think this one was more important?

Certainly you are not saying that the ACLU has an agenda that is different from what they claim?

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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2006, 09:46:41 AM »
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Certainly you are not saying that the ACLU has an agenda that is different from what they claim?

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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2006, 10:49:25 AM »
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Now why would you guys think that the ACLU would go after this case?


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It will when a landlord/propery manager requests proof of citizenship or legal residency from a Hispanic and not one from a non-Hispanic.  That's the problem with these laws, they unfairly target everyone from a specific group and not just the ones here illegally.


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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2006, 10:51:04 AM »
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It will when a landlord/propery manager requests proof of citizenship or legal residency from a Hispanic and not one from a non-Hispanic.  That's the problem with these laws, they unfairly target everyone from a specific group and not just the ones here illegally.


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How does the law unfairly target one group over another if it doesn't mention ethnic groups at all?  Wouldn't what you said be an example of a property owner unfairly targeting one group?

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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2006, 11:43:33 AM »
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How does the law unfairly target one group over another if it doesn't mention ethnic groups at all?  Wouldn't what you said be an example of a property owner unfairly targeting one group?



For example...you and I go and try and rent the apartment.  Who is going to have to prove they are a legal resident or citizen?  You who clearly doesn't look Hispanic or me who does?  9 out of 10 times, it will be me that will have to prove they are a citizen/legal resident and not you.  That is the problem with laws like this.  The intent is good but unfortunately the execution is flawed and does unfairly target a segment of our society.

Now if everyone that applies for an apartment is required to show proof of citizenship or legal residency then I would have no issue with laws such as these.  


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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2006, 11:49:38 AM »
ack ack... If the guy rents to us  then he is making a judgement call... we speak unaccented english and we appear to be American citizens...  our references will also tell him somehting along with our history..

We may not be what we appear and that is the chance he is taking by renting to us.   He would be in just as much trouble if we turned out to be aliens.    

Now... say they looked just like you but they spoke in a heavy russian accent...  the guy would probly ask for proof of citizenship..

that does not make him prejudiced just a person using his judgement and taking his chances.  

The law applies to everyone equaly.

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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2006, 11:56:42 AM »
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For example...you and I go and try and rent the apartment.  Who is going to have to prove they are a legal resident or citizen?  You who clearly doesn't look Hispanic or me who does?  9 out of 10 times, it will be me that will have to prove they are a citizen/legal resident and not you.  That is the problem with laws like this.  The intent is good but unfortunately the execution is flawed and does unfairly target a segment of our society.

Now if everyone that applies for an apartment is required to show proof of citizenship or legal residency then I would have no issue with laws such as these.  


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again I don't see where the LAW descriminates.  The LAW doesn't say check all hispanics it very clearly in black and white says illegals.

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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2006, 12:04:39 PM »
Like AKAK says, its all a matter of application. If its fair and evenhanded, no problem.

For instance, I am currently making sure my company's best interests are served by having every employee in my department fill out and sign an INS Eligibility For Employment form. Every one, including the gringos. We've always required identification and a social security card, this is just another step in making double damn sure we only employ citizens and legal residents. Since this applies to everyone, there is no issue of discrimination.

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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2006, 12:09:06 PM »
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Like AKAK says, its all a matter of application. If its fair and evenhanded, no problem.


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No that's not what he said.  He said it was the LAW that descriminates

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That's the problem with these laws, they unfairly target everyone from a specific group and not just the ones here illegally.