Author Topic: Tutorial for Begginers. (Read 1178 times)

Bogie603rd · « **on:** July 28, 2006, 07:10:46 PM »

I'm just too annoyed about the new people coming into my arenas in WAVES. One time I was the only one that was not a "newu" in my arena. And none of them knew how to communicate!

My request is, make a tutorial that guides the newer people through the features of Aces High step-by-step. Such as it teaches them how to tune and operate the radio. Also how to re-map their controllers, how to change graphical settings, how to operate "Arena Settings", and other things on the "setup" panel. Another thing would be how to teach them to move from one field to another. Afterwards, it teaches them some specific manouvers (as was suggested in the "Advanced Training" thread) and the specifics of war.

That way they start the game knowing how to at least operate in the AH environment without needing to constantly ask how things operate. All of this would help our frustration and make the world of Aces High a little bit more peaceful from us hogs who scream at the new guys for asking the same question 6 times!

EDIT: I know there is a help file, which I myself used to get started. Yet the new guys don't seem to realize the meaning of "HELP". That's why im pushing for a tutorial implemented into the actual game itself.

Lusche · « **Reply #1 on:** July 28, 2006, 07:40:54 PM »

Im a bit sceptical about that. Most people that refuse to read HELP would never go through a tutorial. Many times when I tell those "HOW DO I PLAY?" to look at the help section first, I get the answer "Noo, just tell me!! pleeese!" They are just too lazy,and many don´teven take good advice...

But after all, a tutorial wouldn´t harm anybody, so just go ahead and write one

Schatzi · « **Reply #2 on:** July 29, 2006, 07:38:25 AM »

The problem with How to set up and configure game with a tutorial i see is: there are way too many systems, controllers and GCs out there to get it all into one box.

For use of radio, takeoff, basic flying etc etc, tutorial might be a good idea, but i think the benefits dont outweight the amount of work/coading needed. But i guess only HT can really judge that.

And i agree with Lusche. Those that put a *minimum* effort into learning the game have all possibilities and help they could ever ask for to do so. Sadly youll always have those that dont. Unwilling to move more then a mousepointer to click - no tutorial would help with those.

Bogie603rd · « **Reply #3 on:** July 29, 2006, 11:50:38 AM »

Then make it easy. Any new person who just made an account and logs in for the first time, is re-directed to the tutorial. They have to complete the tutorial before they can ever get to the 8-Player or Online arenas. If they exit the tutorial before it is finished, they either have to re-start the entire process, or they pick up where they left off. Almost the same as when your downloading a terrain, you can click: Download Later and it saves what you have already downloaded to continue later.

E25280 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 29, 2006, 12:17:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Lusche
Im a bit sceptical about that. Most people that refuse to read HELP would never go through a tutorial. Many times when I tell those "HOW DO I PLAY?" to look at the help section first, I get the answer "Noo, just tell me!! pleeese!" They are just too lazy,and many don´teven take good advice...
But after all, a tutorial wouldn´t harm anybody, so just go ahead and write one

I think you also underestimate the effect typical Microsoft - type "help" has had on the collective psyche of the general public . . .

They don't go read the help files because they expect them to be useless.

hacksaw1 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 29, 2006, 01:14:59 PM »

About a month ago I sent a "Primary Flight Syllabus" to Hitech that I thought would help the neophyte learn the essentials of AHII.

I also suggested, similarly to Bogie603rd, that instead of a blanket 2 week free open trial, that Hitech change the policy to getting the first 5 days free in the TA, then 10 days free in any arena.

I also suggested that if the new flyer gets a "checkout" ride with an AH trainer, using the Primary Flight Syllabus, and passes the checkout ride, then the new flyer could get the remaining free days in any arena.

There's a tight rope of not wanting to discourage new users, and strongly encouraging them to make use of online info, TA, and AH trainers.

But I agree that a lot of new users who don't know how to take off, much less do anything else, are showing up in the MA.

Best Regards,

Cement

Bogie603rd · « **Reply #6 on:** July 29, 2006, 02:46:31 PM »

That's a good idea. Yet the problem is that the trainer can't teach them how to do things when the person doesent even know how to type. You should at least have a tutorial on the basics to get them started. And use the method I suggested. When they log onto their account for the first time, it shoots them straight to the tutorial. After they finish the tutorial, their 2 week free-trial begins.

From there on we can do what hacksaw1 suggested. Keep them in the TA for 5 days, then let them into all other arenas. And if they graduate from a TA Trainer, they can automatically go to all other arenas.

Obie303 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 30, 2006, 05:15:50 AM »

I think you folks might be missing the point. I'm very new to AH 2 and what I've read and learned from the vets in the MA is that there is a "VERY STEEP LEARNING CURVE". I tried to do it right. I spent almost a month flying off line shooting at drones, reading net aces info, and reading posts here.

If you get a noob that just jumps right in the MA at the beginning of their two week free trial, they aren't going to know jack. I don't think there is any way you could stop that. I think your idea of a tutorial is a great idea but how can you force anyone who is new to read and follow the instructions.

Look at it this way, all us newbies just make real easy targets!:D

BTW, I found NetAces very good but what would help would be some films on some actual combat flights that illustrate some of the basic manuvers. I film my flights and that helps a little.

Obie303

Schutt · « **Reply #8 on:** July 30, 2006, 05:23:15 AM »

Cant force anyone to do it, but the more intelligent will either try it with an tutorial right away if its intresting enough or after two day for MA.

fuzeman · « **Reply #9 on:** July 30, 2006, 01:45:56 PM »

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

I do feel the TA Arena Message should at least mention that / opens the message window.

But then again with the current state of squad MOTD over riding the Arena Message.... well, thats another problem I already sent in.

Bogie603rd · « **Reply #10 on:** August 01, 2006, 10:26:48 AM »

I thought I already mentioned that new accounts can't access the Online Arena Lobby or 8-Player Lobby without first completing the tutorial. After the tutorial is finished, their 2 week free trial begins.

The Fugitive · « **Reply #11 on:** August 06, 2006, 09:58:23 AM »

You should join the rest of the community, and fly in the big boy arenas. As a paying subscriber there are a lot of resources avalible for the "Newbi" to use to get up and flying. The TA and training corps are top notch. If you have a problem in your little world.... other than your lack of patience with newbies.... either help them along, or kick them out.

Bogie603rd · « **Reply #12 on:** August 07, 2006, 11:52:04 AM »

You have no idea how many I have helped! It gets frustrating when your in an 8-player arena, and everyone in it is a newu except yourself. All the newu's flock to 8-player for some friggin reason. All I want is that there is a tutorial implemented so that they can at least get off their feet. So that when they enter my arena I don't have to kick them out for not complying with the rules and lack of team-communication.

SAS_KID · « **Reply #13 on:** August 09, 2006, 04:51:13 PM »

Obie they have films you can download that show basic manuvers you can download from the websight.

fuzeman · « **Reply #14 on:** August 09, 2006, 06:38:42 PM »

Not sure what the current state of H2H motd's is but you could write one up that does have some basic instructions in it.
I tried that in the TA and it did seem to help a few and relieve some of the repetative basic questions.
Mine had a description of a takeoff and landing with the commands used for them.