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Offline Jackal1

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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2006, 01:03:41 PM »
If I were to move to Mexico and attempted to conduct some kind of business venture, I am sure my paperwork would be checked to see if I had the correct documentation, etc.
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2006, 02:23:14 PM »
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It will when a landlord/propery manager requests proof of citizenship or legal residency from a Hispanic and not one from a non-Hispanic.  That's the problem with these laws, they unfairly target everyone from a specific group and not just the ones here illegally.


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Problem is they target it so rightly.
I remember reading that
Of all the illegals here from all the different countries.
Mexicans make up  like 60% of that and other spanish speaking countries make up somethig like another 20%. of the illegal population

Assuming thats true.
Why would they target someone who speaks,,say German? or perfect english? Odds are they are here legally.

If a man with blond hair robs my house, would I be looking for a black man with blond hair? or a White man?
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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2006, 02:39:56 PM »
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If I were to move to Mexico and attempted to conduct some kind of business venture, I am sure my paperwork would be checked to see if I had the correct documentation, etc.


Actually, you couldn't. Mexican law is that all businesses must have majority ownership by Mexican citizens.

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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2006, 02:41:33 PM »
Simple way to solve the alleged racist angle. All tenents are requiredto provide a copy of their birth certificte with application for apartment. No birth certificate, no apartment. It seems rather bigoted to assume that all of the illegal imigrant problems are hispanic in nature.:rolleyes:
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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2006, 04:21:14 PM »
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Actually, you couldn't. Mexican law is that all businesses must have majority ownership by Mexican citizens.

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That was the point. :)
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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2006, 06:34:02 PM »
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Problem is they target it so rightly.
I remember reading that
Of all the illegals here from all the different countries.
Mexicans make up  like 60% of that and other spanish speaking countries make up somethig like another 20%. of the illegal population

Assuming thats true.
Why would they target someone who speaks,,say German? or perfect english? Odds are they are here legally.

If a man with blond hair robs my house, would I be looking for a black man with blond hair? or a White man?



So it's OK to make anyone that looks Hispanic or has a Hispanic name prove they are a US citizen or resident while someone like you with an Anglo name and look doesn't?  I'm a US citizen, why should I have to prove it to get a job or a place to live while you don't?  


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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2006, 07:07:53 PM »
Who's the authority for that arbitrary threshold anyway?
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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2006, 07:40:39 PM »
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So it's OK to make anyone that looks Hispanic or has a Hispanic name prove they are a US citizen or resident while someone like you with an Anglo name and look doesn't?  I'm a US citizen, why should I have to prove it to get a job or a place to live while you don't?  


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"Anglos" do have to prove it. Everytime I get a place to live or a job I have to go through the same **** because I don't have a SS card. Which is ridicilous because an SS card is not a form of ID, it's just a business card with a name and number typed on it.

Usually it takes the better part of the day untill somebody with half a brain calls down to the numbnuts at the desk and tells them "yes an american  passport or birth certificate is sufficient".

And fyi, most white people are not anglos. Mestizos are more spanish than the average white american is anglo. Assuming you are mestizo, you don't like it when someone calls you spanish right?
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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2006, 12:49:42 AM »
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So it's OK to make anyone that looks Hispanic or has a Hispanic name prove they are a US citizen or resident while someone like you with an Anglo name and look doesn't?  I'm a US citizen, why should I have to prove it to get a job or a place to live while you don't?  


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Anglo name?

Though admittedly I dont look it (in the winter)

My last name is "Mendez"

When did Mendez become an anglo name?

I'd have no problem having to prove it if asked
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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2006, 04:31:40 AM »
That's all well and good, but there's already federal law in place with much stiffer penalties. Employers are required by the INS and IRS to show 2 forms of ID before hiring anyone. It doesn't seem to stop the hiring of illegals.
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« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2006, 09:44:55 AM »
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So it's OK to make anyone that looks Hispanic or has a Hispanic name prove they are a US citizen or resident while someone like you with an Anglo name and look doesn't?  I'm a US citizen, why should I have to prove it to get a job or a place to live while you don't?  


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Absolutely. Local Govts sanction discrimination when it suits their interests under the protection of 'the law', but a property owner cant?

Its common sense that you target those most likely to offend, or in the City of LA's case.. those most likely to succeed.

It was ok for the City of Los Angeles to make me wait in a line for 'male whites only', and it was ok for them to require I score 30+ points more than a non white for the exact same city job. My score of 105% carried the same weight as a non white who score 75%.

I watched as whites who scored much better were shown the door, while others who just managed to eek past 70% walked through the door.

If a property owner applies a tougher standard to a group s/he thinks is more likely to be illegal, hes mirroring the Govts actions.
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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2006, 09:49:29 AM »
ack ack... I think you are missing the point... the LAW is not discriminatory at all..

The law simply provides for penalties for renting to illegal aliens.

Culero is on the money as to how the landlord applies the standard.  You would have to have a standard practice for determining citizenship or lack thereof.  

The law says that you will be fined if you rent to an illegal alien is all.

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« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2006, 11:22:46 AM »
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« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2006, 11:42:29 AM »
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Good luck with that.


A different time and certainly a different country mindset as a whole.
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« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2006, 02:17:33 PM »
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A different time and certainly a different country mindset as a whole.


We'll see. This one will probably be challenged.
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