Author Topic: How can this be? (Read 757 times)

lazs2 · « **on:** July 31, 2006, 09:09:26 AM »

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsa...&src=rss&rpc=22

A wave of gangland shootings in bermuda? Where could they be getting guns? I heard guns were illegal there.

"Authorities have linked the island's gang problem to its burgeoning drug trade, which police say is worth about $200 million a year.

Narcotics, with the bulk of consumption blamed on locals rather than tourists, have long been an easy way to make cash in pricey Bermuda, where the average house costs nearly $1.2 million and the average rent is more than $1,400 a month.

Prices for smuggled handguns, which often arrive with illicit drug shipments, have soared to $3,000, with owners wanting protection amid heightened violence over drug turf."

lazs

Swoop · « **Reply #1 on:** July 31, 2006, 09:23:09 AM »

How can this be?

You're surprised that drug dealers have guns?

ooookay lazs mate......

Now is this really just a cheap point over Curv or are you really surprised to discover that drug dealers can smuggle guns as well as drugs?

Bronk · « **Reply #2 on:** July 31, 2006, 09:40:26 AM »

With all do respect Swoop Lazs is pointing out the absurdity of some gun laws.
If all guns are made Illegal then only the criminals will have guns.

Bronk

Ripsnort · « **Reply #3 on:** July 31, 2006, 09:57:24 AM »

Seems like a good reason to implement a law allowing Bermuda residents the right to carry and conceal. If Curval's on, maybe you could comment on this? Seems the gun laws, no matter how strict, are not influencial enough to deter gun crimes....

Masherbrum · « **Reply #4 on:** July 31, 2006, 11:26:33 AM »

Predictions:

1. Beet1e will be mentioned, and possibly Cricket Paddles (bats).
2. Curval will sound off.
3. This thread will be locked by sundown.

Sandman · « **Reply #5 on:** July 31, 2006, 11:31:32 AM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Predictions:

1. Beet1e will be mentioned, and possibly Cricket Paddles (bats).
2. Curval will sound off.
3. This thread will be locked by sundown.

Bronk · « **Reply #6 on:** July 31, 2006, 11:40:21 AM »

4. Beet1e new shade will sound off and be skuzzified yet again.

Bronk

Saintaw · « **Reply #7 on:** July 31, 2006, 11:42:09 AM »

How many gun crimes a year in Bermuda?
2- 7 ? Oh lalaa!!!

Ripsnort · « **Reply #8 on:** July 31, 2006, 11:54:10 AM »

By legalizing guns, they'd be giving less $$ to the dark overloads of the underworld in Bermuda (Sounds like a potential Television show or hollywood movie! Aye!)

Incidently, the link is here:
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2006-07-31T121140Z_01_N28421235_RTRUKOC_0_US-CRIME-BERMUDA.xml&src=rss&rpc=22

Swoop · « **Reply #9 on:** July 31, 2006, 02:04:01 PM »

Bronk,

Guns are illegal in Bermuda and yep, that means only the criminals have em......but there's still way less gun crimes per capita that in countries that have legal weapons.

Why? Heck if I know but it's the same in Britain. Gun crimes are so rare in this country when we have one it makes national news.

Rip,

How does Curv legally buying a gun mean he's giving less $$ to the 'dark underworld' when he doesnt give anything to the 'dark underworld' in the first place?

Ripsnort · « **Reply #10 on:** July 31, 2006, 02:10:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Swoop

Rip,

How does Curv legally buying a gun mean he's giving less $$ to the 'dark underworld' when he doesnt give anything to the 'dark underworld' in the first place?

I wasn't speaking of Curv himself, but rather residents that feel the need to protect themselves from obviously rising crime statistics on that island.
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Prices for smuggled handguns, which often arrive with illicit drug shipments, have soared to $3,000, with owners wanting protection amid heightened violence over drug turf."

AquaShrimp · « **Reply #11 on:** July 31, 2006, 02:13:15 PM »

Bulletproof vests are still legal arent they?

lazs2 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 31, 2006, 02:17:58 PM »

how small does an island have to get before you are absolutely sure that the criminals can't get guns after they are banned?

63,000 people and they have had twice as many drive by shootings as some of our cities with twice that population.

lazs

Masherbrum · « **Reply #13 on:** July 31, 2006, 02:31:57 PM »

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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Bulletproof vests are still legal arent they?

They are bullet resistant vests and a knife into one is more effective than a bullet.

Swoop · « **Reply #14 on:** July 31, 2006, 02:32:31 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
how small does an island have to get before you are absolutely sure that the criminals can't get guns after they are banned?

I'd estimate you'd need a population no bigger than 1 to be absolutely sure......unless you've got a multiple personalities disorder.

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Originally posted by lazs2

63,000 people and they have had twice as many drive by shootings as some of our cities with twice that population.

Quote from the news story Rip kindly linked:

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Originally posted at Reuters

the fifth shooting in the last 90 days but the island's first murder this year.

Are you absolutely sure of your figures Lazs?