Author Topic: Regime change- Middle East (Read 935 times)

Hawco · « **on:** August 01, 2006, 09:19:05 AM »

Hi guys
was giving this subject some thought yesterday, We all had some good debates and different thoughts and so I thought long and hard about Regime change in that region.
the 1 country that stood above all the others was Saudi Arabia, If i could change any country there then it would be that one.
They supplied 15 of the 19 hijackers, They market a brand of Islam known as whabai? that's the brand that's popular in Somalia, Indonensia etc. bin Laden was from Suadi Arabia, They have no free and fair elections, no democracy as we know it.
I seen a report on Indonensia and how all this Saudi money was flowing in and opening up these Wahabi schools, another country that now has a festering sore building up from the inside.
Just my thoughts, but I don't think i'm far of the mark here guys. I don't think they can hide behind our coat tails anymore, they need to be hit hard and told in no uncertain terms that this can't go on.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #1 on:** August 01, 2006, 09:34:32 AM »

I've given the Middle East alot of thought lately. To hell with them. Let em kill each other.

Sandman · « **Reply #2 on:** August 01, 2006, 09:36:47 AM »

Gee... let's look at the historical successes of U.S. involvement with middle-east politics.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #3 on:** August 01, 2006, 09:38:23 AM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Gee... let's look at the historical successes of U.S. involvement with middle-east politics.

Personally I'd love for us to develop a petroleum alternative and make the ENTIRE region insignificant.

deSelys · « **Reply #4 on:** August 01, 2006, 09:41:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Personally I'd love for us to develop a petroleum alternative and make the ENTIRE region insignificant.

I 2nd that.

Shuckins · « **Reply #5 on:** August 01, 2006, 09:47:48 AM »

I'm with Gunslinger on this...mass produce synthetic oils (we already have that technology), build some nuclear power plants, and let the fanatics spread their oil on the sand and eat it.

soda72 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 01, 2006, 09:49:40 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Personally I'd love for us to develop a petroleum alternative and make the ENTIRE region insignificant.

yep, that would certainly solve a lot of problems right now...

Sandman · « **Reply #7 on:** August 01, 2006, 09:56:49 AM »

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Originally posted by deSelys
I 2nd that.

I can think of a few American gazillionaires that have no interest whatsoever in a petroleum alternative.

ExxonMobile
Chevron
ConocoPhillips
Halliburton
Shell
Sunoco

Shuckins · « **Reply #8 on:** August 01, 2006, 10:04:49 AM »

On the other hand, Sandy, they could lead the charge toward American development of alternative fuels if properly motivated.

A large share of the profits and good PR would be strong motivators.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 01, 2006, 10:06:13 AM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Gee... let's look at the historical successes of U.S. involvement with middle-east politics.

Is that some kind of zen thing, looking at something that doesn't exist?

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 01, 2006, 10:06:59 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Personally I'd love for us to develop a petroleum alternative and make the ENTIRE region insignificant.

Imagine if we had spent the $300B on that.

Sandman · « **Reply #11 on:** August 01, 2006, 10:08:03 AM »

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Originally posted by Shuckins
On the other hand, Sandy, they could lead the charge toward American development of alternative fuels if properly motivated.

A large share of the profits and good PR would be strong motivators.

They're not interested. They are in the petroleum business and business is exceedingly good.

They're not in the business for public opinion. They're in it for profit.

I don't expect altruism from an oil company.

Sandman · « **Reply #12 on:** August 01, 2006, 10:08:50 AM »

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Is that some kind of zen thing, looking at something that doesn't exist?

Kind of a zen-Neocon thing.

Eagler · « **Reply #13 on:** August 01, 2006, 10:10:40 AM »

best develop that fuel alternative before you request a regime change in Saudi

as screwed up as it is, the only thing holding gas at a mere $3 a gallon is our relationship with the Saudi Royal family. You toss those guys out on their ear, guess what kind of cheekbones would take their place...

Sandman · « **Reply #14 on:** August 01, 2006, 10:17:24 AM »

I predict that gasoline isn't going to hold at $3. By this time next year, I expect it to be at least $4.