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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2006, 05:47:50 AM »
This deserves a punch up back to the top.
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2006, 06:19:59 AM »
I'd like to see the other POV, just to compare. Call me extremist.

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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2006, 06:36:33 AM »
The PLO is their own worst enemy.
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2006, 07:47:17 AM »
It certainly doesn't give a true picture.

For example, the claim that the "Arab decision to invade in 1948" caused the refugee problem is blatantly untrue, as there were already a lot of Arab refugees before that. For example, Jaffa was attacked and conquered, about 60,000 Arab refugees, Haifa was conquered, another 50,000 or more refugees, a corridor was driven through the West Bank to Jerusalem, more refugees.

All before the state of Israel was declared, and the neighbouring Arab armies attacked.

The simple truth is neither side accepted the borders of the UN partition plan, and the Jews, being much better organised and armed, went on the offensive long before their independence to increase, by force, the land that had been granted to them under the UN partition plan.

It also says that most of the area allocated to Jews was desert, without pointing out that Jews comprised 30% of the population at the time of partition, and were granted 55% of the land under the partition plan (ie the Arabs comprised 70% of the population, the Arab state was granted 45% of the land)

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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2006, 07:48:43 AM »
yawn, I need my Wheaties
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2006, 08:23:50 AM »
i think it started in 1000BC when the arabs invaded jerusalem and destroyed the temple of solomon.

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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2006, 08:35:34 AM »
I think it started approximately 1 brazillian years ago, when the first two proto-human beings entered the Middle Eastern desert...
...and tried to kill each other.

Hasn't changed since...

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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2006, 08:40:57 AM »
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Originally posted by Goomba
I think it started approximately 1 brazillian years ago, when the first two proto-human beings entered the Middle Eastern desert...
...and tried to kill each other.

Hasn't changed since...


Somehow I knew Brazil was behind this all.

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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2006, 08:58:16 AM »
I guess nothing happened before 1250 BC ?

You know before a group of hobo invaded Canaan ?

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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2006, 09:55:11 AM »
Now why the hell would hobos want to invade Canada? Oh yea...the free health care...nevermind.

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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2006, 09:59:35 AM »
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I think it started approximately 1 brazillian years ago, when the first two proto-human beings entered the Middle Eastern desert...
...and tried to kill each other.

Hasn't changed since...


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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2006, 10:01:31 AM »
For those who are interested, the following site offers a fairly comprehensive look at the events leading to the creation of Israel.

Despite the source, it is more even handed in its treatment of the topic than one would think, and serves as a good introduction to the major players, ideologies, and political movements within the Arabic and Zionist movements.

The commentary condenses a subject that has all the complexity of a Gordian Knot into lucid English text which can be read in little more than thirty minutes.

http://www.zionism-israel.com/zionism_history.htm

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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2006, 10:16:41 AM »
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I guess nothing happened before 1250 BC ?

You know before a group of hobo invaded Canaan ?


Shouldn't you be drinking cocktails at Moonshadows?

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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2006, 12:30:24 PM »
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i think it started in 1000BC when the arabs invaded jerusalem and destroyed the temple of solomon.


Actually the temple of Solomon was destroyed by the Babylonians in 586 BC.  It was rebuilt a couple times but was razed for the last time by the Roman general Titus in 70 AD.

But yeah, I agree that contention over Jerusalem over the years by different cultures is at the heart of the Middle Eastern problems.
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