Author Topic: F-22... Is it already in service?  (Read 367 times)

Offline 1K3

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F-22... Is it already in service?
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2006, 02:21:53 AM »
He's just saying being locked-on by an AMRAAM is a guaranteed kill (thanks to its No-Escape-Zone)

Even the RUssians have the AMRAAM missle equivalent and it is called AMRAAMSKI (R-77).  The R-77's range is 50km more than AMRAAM and it's got "potato-masher" fins making it the most manuverable missile in the world.  Russia has no problem exporting these missiles.

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Offline eagl

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F-22... Is it already in service?
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2006, 02:48:48 AM »
Nilsen,

I absolutely do have problems with NATO allies having AMRAAM.  But that's because I am (was) a shooter, not an international strategist.  International strategists don't really have to worry about the increased risk that one will fall into the "wrong" hands, don't have to worry about the fact that the first one the French got ahold of was immediately dissected and a program to defeat it developed into their already very effective jammers, jammers that are by the way available for sale on the world market.

So yea, I have a problem with AMRAAM being sold, because I was one of the guys who might one day go to war and find out they don't work because they've been exploited, or that my opponent knows how it works so well that they have developed tactics to defeat it.

There are plenty of European missiles that are just as good as AMRAAM...  Let them shoot those.  Yea the US arms industry benefits from export sales, but they'd also benefit from me getting killed in combat because that means they'll get the contracts to build even better weapons since the ones we have were so obviously exploited and worthless.

I only rarely "approve" of arms exports...  I applaud F-15E exports for 2 reasons - First, they keep the production line open longer and that means the USAF has the opportunity to keep buying them longer.  Second, I know how to kill an F-15E.  The same goes for a viper, although the new radar they've allowed for export is something I haven't had much experience with.  But AMRAAM and the F-22...  Damn.  Those scare me.
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