Author Topic: Non-religious alternative to Cub Scouts? (Read 1598 times)

Chairboy · « **Reply #15 on:** August 03, 2006, 10:39:05 PM »

Outward Bound looks pretty cool, but while I can't find any specifics, it seems to be targeted at older kids, like in their teens. I may be mistaken.

Good read, though, until now I assumed OB was for kids in trouble.

xrtoronto · « **Reply #16 on:** August 03, 2006, 10:59:55 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
it seems to be targeted at older kids, like in their teens.

looks like it starts at age 12...see link below

here

Chairboy · « **Reply #17 on:** August 03, 2006, 11:01:31 PM »

Ah, roger that. Well, still a ways out for my oldest who is 4.

LePaul · « **Reply #18 on:** August 03, 2006, 11:18:58 PM »

Avoiding the Scouts because of that?

Wow.

Chairboy · « **Reply #19 on:** August 04, 2006, 12:28:02 AM »

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Originally posted by LePaul
Avoiding the Scouts because of that?

Wow.

Maybe you didn't read my post.

1. Atheists are specifically not allowed to join the Boy Scouts or Cub Scouts.
2. If he DID join, I'd be teaching him that oaths don't matter (because he would be pledging allegiance to a god he didn't believe in).

What's your problem?

LePaul · « **Reply #20 on:** August 04, 2006, 12:36:19 AM »

I looked and re-looked...I didnt see where you specifically said you were athiests

Maybe I missed it.

Oh and I dont have a "problem"...do you?

Chairboy · « **Reply #21 on:** August 04, 2006, 12:41:00 AM »

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Originally posted by LePaul
I looked and re-looked...I didnt see where you specifically said you were athiests

Maybe I missed it.

Oh and I dont have a "problem"...do you?

Message 4, I said I didn't want him swearing to god, which he didn't believe in.

And no, I didn't have a problem until you rolled out your condescending "Avoiding the scouts for THAT? Wow." Then I did. Drop it, I'm just looking for something for my kid.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 04, 2006, 12:48:40 AM »

2- Threads should remain on topic, do not "hijack" topics.

rpm · « **Reply #23 on:** August 04, 2006, 01:16:19 AM »

2- Threads should remain on topic, do not "hijack" topics.

Chairboy · « **Reply #24 on:** August 04, 2006, 09:18:39 AM »

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
2- Threads should remain on topic, do not "hijack" topics.

I can't see anything wrong with just not saying "under god", as that is a pledge to the flag/nation that _mentions_ god, while the boy scout oath is a pledge _to_ god.

Do you understand the difference?

lukster · « **Reply #25 on:** August 04, 2006, 09:25:14 AM »

You could move to Canada.

http://www.robertscheer.com/2_localla/00_columns/070900.htm

"The Canadian Boy Scouts entertain no such exclusionary policies and have even encouraged gay scouts to march as a group at gay pride functions."

Nifty · « **Reply #26 on:** August 04, 2006, 09:36:51 AM »

Good for you, Chairboy. Don't compromise your beliefs, and don't teach your children to either.

My stepsister was in Camp Fire, and they seemed to have a good time. Hopefully, it will be a good thing for your children.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #27 on:** August 04, 2006, 09:40:32 AM »

Chairboy,

While it disappoints me that your kids might not enjoy the scouts because of your convictions I do admire that you arent comprimising because of your convictions.

lazs2 · « **Reply #28 on:** August 04, 2006, 09:48:42 AM »

I'm curious chairboy... is this avowed athiesm yours or is it also your childs?

In other words... is the decision against the boy scouts yours or his and... if it is his... what is he basing it on?

lazs

Chairboy · « **Reply #29 on:** August 04, 2006, 10:07:09 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
I'm curious chairboy... is this avowed athiesm yours or is it also your childs?

In other words... is the decision against the boy scouts yours or his and... if it is his... what is he basing it on?

lazs

A fine question. Like religious families, we're teaching him what we believe. When he's older, he can make his own choices, but our household is god free until then. Zero difference whatsoever from how, say, christian families raise their kids, I do hope it won't be suggested that a different standard applies to atheists?

Finally, it's not so much his decision against the Boy Scouts as it is my decision against putting him in a situation where he swears falsely. I'm raising my kids with more character than that.