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Offline lukster

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« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2006, 11:20:39 AM »
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« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2006, 11:32:57 AM »
Where am I bemoaning it?  Are you getting confused because I'm mentioning it whenever people ask why I don't just enroll him in cub scouts?  It's not bemoaning, it's a simple statement of fact.  

1. The scouts are a private organization.
2. Their rules exclude atheists and agnostics.
3. That's their perogative, this is America.
4. Anyone know any alternatives?

Anything you read into my messages beyond that is your own construction.
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« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2006, 11:35:18 AM »
Chairboy, I found something that may be just what you are looking for:

here
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« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2006, 11:36:28 AM »
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« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2006, 11:37:51 AM »
Explorers. I know for a fact that they have Aviation Explorer's. Growing up I was in Boy Scouts and Aviation Explorers. Unfortunatley I left the Explorers, when I was concentrating on making Eagle Scout.
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« Reply #50 on: August 04, 2006, 11:42:24 AM »
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Lazs: You're not listening.

THE.
BOY.
SCOUTS.
DO.
NOT.
ALLOW.
ATHEISTS.
AND.
AGNOSTICS.
TO.
JOIN.

They kick them out.

This is not "Chairboy pushing an agenda", this is just facts.



You are the supposed aethist. Your child is not. Children are children.
I get a great kick out of folks who are so literaly terrified........of something they say they do not beleive in. :)
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« Reply #51 on: August 04, 2006, 11:46:49 AM »
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Message 4, I said I didn't want him swearing to god, which he didn't believe in.

And no, I didn't have a problem until you rolled out your condescending "Avoiding the scouts for THAT?  Wow."  Then I did.  Drop it, I'm just looking for something for my kid.


I'm just curious- do atheist kids believe in Santa Clause?

Its kinda hard to swallow that a kid could be an atheist at four years old. Of course they are doing and saying what they are told, but I sincerely doubt they've sorted it all out :)

And BTW, I wouldn't want to seem to criticize how you are raising or not raising your child. But from your responses, I think you were looking for more than links (i.e., a debate on Christian organizations). Color me a skeptic:noid
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« Reply #52 on: August 04, 2006, 11:51:05 AM »
I suppose my kid is an atheist/agnostic at 4 just as much as someone elses kid is christian/jewish at 4.  Look, I'm not pushing any agenda, despite what some folks are suggesting.  I'm just looking for something for my kid, and I've gotten some great suggestions, for which I'm thankful.
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« Reply #53 on: August 04, 2006, 11:54:08 AM »
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I suppose my kid is an atheist/agnostic at 4 just as much as someone elses kid is christian/jewish at 4.  Look, I'm not pushing any agenda, despite what some folks are suggesting.  I'm just looking for something for my kid, and I've gotten some great suggestions, for which I'm thankful.


Maybe, but it sounds like typical anti-christian rhetoric to me. If I'm wrong, I apologize.
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« Reply #54 on: August 04, 2006, 12:01:31 PM »
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Maybe, but it sounds like typical anti-christian rhetoric to me. If I'm wrong, I apologize.


You're not wrong and I don't apologize.
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« Reply #55 on: August 04, 2006, 12:05:24 PM »
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Maybe, but it sounds like typical anti-christian rhetoric to me. If I'm wrong, I apologize.


Ok, what part of what I wrote was anti-christian?
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« Reply #56 on: August 04, 2006, 12:09:26 PM »
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Ok, what part of what I wrote was anti-christian?


You post at least once a month some complaint about how Christians are oppressing you. Just because you veiled it with a request for info isn't fooling anyone. You want to complain about Christians you have the right. If you treat us like we're stupid expect to be called on it.
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« Reply #57 on: August 04, 2006, 12:33:47 PM »
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You post at least once a month some complaint about how Christians are oppressing you. Just because you veiled it with a request for info isn't fooling anyone. You want to complain about Christians you have the right. If you treat us like we're stupid expect to be called on it.
Tell me this, can you suggest anything I should have done differently?

Just not enroll my kids in any type of scouting, is that it?

Lukster, you're pushing your own issues onto this.  I'm not veiling anything, I'm being straight up.  

You're wrong, do you have the strength of character to admit it and apologize?
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« Reply #58 on: August 04, 2006, 12:35:01 PM »
check your PM chairboy
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« Reply #59 on: August 04, 2006, 12:39:55 PM »
Thanks Xrtoronto!
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