Author Topic: Trackir Advice ???? (Read 1221 times)

LEADPIG · « **on:** August 06, 2006, 01:56:45 PM »

I just got a trackir the other day and this thing is making me queezy, the motion is sickening but i'm getting the idea it will be really cool once i tune it. The question is how the hell do you use the thing? I try to use it in pan view but it seems to only use the snap views and when i look around it snaps to these odd views that i don't want. Another thing, does anyone have any profiles, and ideas on how you set yours. I really don't know how to set it, i read the instructions but i need some plain simple honest advice on what's best to set it to. I'm getting shot down in the MA while i screw around with this thing and i don't know what the hell's happening lol, so if you see Ledpig flopping his trackir's probably screwed up, or he got shot cause his trackir's screwing him up. Take advantage now:D

TinmanX · « **Reply #1 on:** August 06, 2006, 02:08:40 PM »

Best advice I ever got on TrackIR was from Silat;

"Don't buy it."

Viper9th · « **Reply #2 on:** August 06, 2006, 03:24:35 PM »

lol

I got it myself with vector. Basically do something like this.

1. Install the software.
2. Put on the hat.
3. Run the Program
4. Go into tracking and play with how sensitive you want it, and such.
5. Play the game make sure the green light is on that means its tracking the hat, to toggle to hat on and off press F9.
6. Take a week to get used to it

Bronk · « **Reply #3 on:** August 06, 2006, 04:16:03 PM »

Shameless ripoff of speed55 incoming...

Deadbands are really important.
When you set them up right the thing is fantastic.

Use the edit profile option, with the head/gages/tracking boxes checked, and mess with the deadband settings.
I set mine like this:
Tacking type = Vector

Positon - Value
Yaw
0- 0
2- 4
5- 9
10- 20
20- 26
30- 26
40- 79
50- 77

Pitch
0- 0
2- 6
5- 17
10- 18
20- 23
30- 0
40- 0
50- 0

Roll
0- 0
2- 1
5- 1
10- 0
20- 8
30- 7
40- 0
50- 0

X
0- 0
2- 0
5- 8
10- 9
20- 14
30- 75
40- 75
50- 75

Y
0- 1
2- 25
5- 80
10- 80
20- 80
30- 79
40- 79
50- 69

Z
0- 0
2- 6
5- 79
10- 79
20- 51
30- 23
40- 1
50- 0

Good luck - 6 views = look left/lean right or look right/ lean left
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This is a good baseline to start with.

Bronk

ALF · « **Reply #4 on:** August 06, 2006, 05:50:13 PM »

Be sure to check your framerates. TIR could easily cause some motion sickness if your framerates arnt smooth (30+ minimum 99% or the time...60 is better). You may need to dial back your details to get a smooth FR, because its more crutial with TIR

LEADPIG · « **Reply #5 on:** August 06, 2006, 06:23:35 PM »

I am noticing a reduction in Framerates with trackir, is this the Trackir, does it suck alot of Cpu juice??

Bronk · « **Reply #6 on:** August 06, 2006, 06:32:11 PM »

Makes my cpu usage jump from normal 0-2% to 4-5% and mem usage is 15,052 k. This was checked with task manager. I don't think this is much of a hit. I could be wrong though.

What is your rigs CPU and how much memory.

Bronk

Balsy · « **Reply #7 on:** August 06, 2006, 08:15:42 PM »

quit whining.

TIR vector is key.. However.. you WILL start over flying and shooting again. I cannot state it better than before TIR you are flying FROM a set view, after TIR you will learn to fly INTO a view.

Happy to share my profile..

Also.. set a recenter button on your JS, lean forward and down recenter, and then go back to your natural sitting posiiton...this will give you optimal 6 views an the highest seat setting...and when you ready to fire.. lean forward and down..

Also... set a forward view button on you JS... click and hold this down during firing.. it will lock your forward view into only the x and y axis and not allow yaw to affect your shot.

Balsy

ALF · « **Reply #8 on:** August 07, 2006, 04:44:38 PM »

The TIR doest take too much CPU, however because you are contantly looking around, your framerates overall will be slightly lower.

llama · « **Reply #9 on:** August 07, 2006, 06:19:50 PM »

I disagree that "Vector" is the key. I'm still using TrackIR 3 without the vector add-on, and I just love it.

I wouldn't fly without it.

-Llama

Lusche · « **Reply #10 on:** August 07, 2006, 06:54:47 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by llama
I disagree that "Vector" is the key. I'm still using TrackIR 3 without the vector add-on, and I just love it.

I wouldn't fly without it.

-Llama

Did you ever try vector? It´s like night and day. Just looking around all those fat cockpit frames bars, leaning left/right to get a better view on the ground. Getting a look at that "hidden" cannon round indicator in 109´s... Its really a big improvement.

(The only reason i dont fly Il2 anymore is the missing vector support)

hacksaw1 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 08, 2006, 02:23:15 AM »

Also Leadpig you should make sure you have positioned the little IR transmitter-receiver on an approximate level with your head, and a good distance from where you sit. Mine is a few inches beyond arm's length away. If you sit much lower or higher than the level it is positioned the view will jerk because it won't read the reflectors on your cap properly.

I also had a strange problem a few times. At first I used a regular baseball cap to attach the reflectors and things worked fine. Then went to an open-topped bill and on occasion it seemed my hair (blond) was interferring and reflecting enough IR to confuse Track IR causing view problems. But once I tucked my hair below the level of the sweatband of the bill things worked fine again.

You should also try the TrackIR Object Relative Move option both selected and deselected to see which way you prefer. I have it selected. Some prefer it deselected. It changes the way your head-turning and leaning is presented on screen. On the clipboard choose: Options, Preferences, View Options, then check or uncheck TrackIR Object Relative Move.

I don't see much of a hit on the CPU with Track IR.

I also concur with Balsy to set a "recenter" button on your Joy Stick. I recenter several times per flight, especially just before engaging or shooting or releasing ord.

I suggest practicing offline too to get used to it.

Best Regards,

Cement

LEADPIG · « **Reply #12 on:** August 08, 2006, 03:58:55 AM »

Guy's thank you so much your little tip's are just the type i need, and are not all found in the instructions:aok

toon · « **Reply #13 on:** August 08, 2006, 11:01:38 AM »

click on "profiles" i believe there is now an aces high profile.click on that and save it in the box below. then click edit . click on guages..disable the one that allows tilt of head motion..not leaning but tilt of head ...do follow balsys advice on centering ...a must to be added to js...also try f7 it is prcision and slows it down a bit...if you see me pull me aside and well go to some quiet base and have a few cocktails and i'll be able to tell you more in game than on bbs.

Mako15 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 08, 2006, 12:19:05 PM »

Ok I know this is gonna sound dumb, but I'm a newb so I figure I might as well ask....What is Trackir?