Hezbollah Swearing In Ceremony

[Shuckins]

I've seen this gesture somewhere before:




The origins of that salute lie in the history of one of the most notorious Muslim leaders of the twentieth century:  Haj Amin al-Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.

Radical Muslim leader, and organizer of anti-Semitic violence in the British Palestinian Mandate, murderer of his Muslim enemies and moderates.  He was expelled from Palestine in 1941, the Grand Mufti spent the war years as Hitler's guest in Berlin.

While there, he had a hand in the furtherance of the Final Solution, was a personal friend of Himmler, and organized an all-Muslim unit in the SS which massacred thousands of Jews and Christians in Bosnia.

Captured by the Allies at the end of World War II, he escaped from French captivity in Paris, fleeing to Cairo.  From there, he spread his special mixture of Muslim religion and Nazi politics to other areas of the middle east.  The Grand Mufti is considered to be the ideological godfather of Yassar Arafat, Gamal Abdel Nassar, Saddam Hussein, and other Muslim/fascist dictators of the latter half of the twentieth century.

[Neubob]

Where's a Daisy Cutter when you need one?

Or five or six.

[Saintaw]

Dear Shuckins,

I find it surprising (please not the word surprising, in it's propper sense) that himmler would have an arab (non-aryan) as a personal friend. Not the kind of himler I remember reading about. Common interrests I can see, but that's about all I can envision.

Saw(the new open-minded Saw )

[Mini D]

You'll have to come up with a clever name for him like "Himler Haj" or something. It's all the rage these days.

[Eagler]

germany was allied with japan and italy
I do not recall seeing any 6ft blonde blue eyed italians or japanese ...
me thinks hitler would have had his "friends" taken care of when the time was right

here is more info on Haj Amin al-Husseini
WOW - financed by the SS during ww2 - all the more reason to wonder why we handle these animals with kit gloves..

and HERE

amazing - thanks Shuckins, I did not know this before

[Shuckins]

You're welcome Eagler.

The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem's Hanzar SS troops are responsible for the killing of 90% of Bosnia's Jewish population.

Calling him Himmler's friend might have been a bit of a stretch, but he was definitely a collaborator in the formation and implementation of the Holocaust.



This is a copy of Mein Kampf, published in Arabic, which is distributed to Palestinian school children by the Palestinian Authority.

[Eagler]

makes you wonder why this obvious tie to genocide isn't reported by our enlightened talking heads on the news networks

[indy007]

Originally posted by Eagler
makes you wonder why this obvious tie to genocide isn't reported by our enlightened talking heads on the news networks

You can't be a victim and a genocidal maniac at the same time.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Shuckins
The origins of that salute lie in the history of one of the most notorious Muslim leaders of the twentieth century:  Haj Amin al-Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem...

It was the salute of the Roman Legion long before Haj Amin or Adolph.

[Momus--]

Originally posted by Eagler
makes you wonder why this obvious tie to genocide isn't reported by our enlightened talking heads on the news networks

It's either a vast and pervasive ongoing international media conspiracy or the propaganda website  that Shuckins lifts this stuff without attributing it doesn't tell the whole story. Which do you think is more likely?

Lots of Arab nationalists looked to the Nazis as a way of freeing themselves from French and British domination, not out of any particular sympathy for Nazi ideology. Certain Hindu nationalists in India did the same thing. Many of the same people later looked to the Soviet Union for the same reasons, which should be a good indicator that their main motivation was just political necessity.

[Shuckins]

Oh, it's propaganda eh?

Tell ya what Momus...look it up yourself.  I simply Googled the man's name and visited several web sites.  There are even a few sponsored by Arabic organizations that portray this notorious anti-Semitic murderer as a great hero.

Evidently, you're dismissing out-of-hand the information I have posted.

Had this man not escaped from French custody he would have ended up at Nuremberg being tried for crimes against humanity.

Read the sites, if you're truly open-minded.  This man's crimes are well-documented and attested to by testimony from some of the Nazis who worked with him.

He is NOT an admirable man whose reputation has been sullied by anti-Arab propaganda.

[T0J0]

What a shocker, an islamofacist with ties to the nazi party....  It cant possibly be true! Quick call the UN to save the day.... Appease them with cheese handouts before its to late...

[Airscrew]

Originally posted by T0J0
What a shocker, an islamofacist with ties to the nazi party....  It cant possibly be true! Quick call the UN to save the day.... Appease them with cheese handouts before its to late...

UN: "I'm sorry, we're all out of cheese right now, how bout some oil?"

[Debonair]

i dont see how this makes him nassar's "ideological godfather"
nassar was working for the german in the second world war also

[Momus--]

Originally posted by Shuckins

Tell ya what Momus...look it up yourself.

Thanks but I already did, about fifteen years ago. I also bothered to at least try to understand the historical context of what I was reading; you should try that sometime.

Anything that presents an incomplete or distorted picture of events for the purpose of advancing an agenda is propaganda by definition. What is so hard to understand about that? For you, quite a lot apparently. You've already been called on it more than once in the last week and still you persist.

True, al-Husseini dealt with the Nazi's. So did many other anti-british figures of the time. That includes prominent jewish figures such as Avraham Stern, who approached the Nazis for an alliance in exchange for an eventual jewish state in Palestine even as the final solution was gathering pace. That's an episode the zionists don't mention much these days for some reason. There are other instances of zionist collaboration with the the Nazis if you care to look for them. This is the context the websites you like to quote omit to provide.

War makes for curious bedfellows.  One only has to look at some of the foreign regimes that successive US adminstrations have aligned themselves with in the last 50 years to work that one out.

Originally posted by Debonair
i dont see how this makes him nassar's "ideological godfather"

It doesn't. It's an exageration intended to create a firm link between secular pan-arab nationalism and nazism that in reality is very tenuous.