Author Topic: Breaking News: IL-2 engine planning to go online (Read 1735 times)

Bruno · « **Reply #30 on:** August 07, 2006, 03:28:22 PM »

I don't understand, what favoritism against 'US planes'...?

The best planes right now in FB are the P-47D-27 w/150 octane fuel (P-47D). It puts the AH P-47N to shame. They have 5 versions of Mustang. P-51b, P-51C, P-51D-5, P-51-D20 with gyro site and Mustang III with 150 octane. We do a regular thing with the 4th FG. I don't fly P-51s so we were talking on TS with one of them discussing allied planes. He said that with out a doubt the Mustang is the best Ami dog fighter in that game. They are good enough to prove it. In FB there's a much wider variety of Ami planes to choose from then AH. There's over 5 variants of P-40. There's P-38late with 1750HP per eng. The thing is a monster.

In the Pacific they have more F4Us then AH (including the chog and RAF variants) the have 2 F6Fs which I will fly both of those because they awesome fun. P-40s and P-39s are very competitive etc... (they even have the P-63). I fly allot of the Zekes / F4F server and its a lot of fun flying both sides. I never fly any Ami planes in AH. I don't think they are fun. OTOH in FB I would fly the F6Fs as much as possible.

They have so many variants of Spitfires (even one with 25lbs boost). Then there's the Tempest despites it 9lb boost (the big whine is that the RAF got jipped because it doesn't have 13lbs boost) is fun as hell.

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We've been primed well vs the LA7 waves in the MA.

Fly on a map with La-7s in FB. They would whup AHs La-7s arse...

Folks complain over there about Mustangs not being able to dogfight like spits (mostly this is due to how the model the fuel tanks). They complain about .50 cal asymmetrical recoil, they complain about everything under the sun. Then there are others who fly them and kick arse and have fun doing it.

BoB will have 6DOF like AH and should be a lot of fun.

Russian · « **Reply #31 on:** August 07, 2006, 03:56:13 PM »

That is not really breaking news in any way. Oleg has been talking about doing this for a long time now since original 1.0 IL2 days. Unfortunately since publisher is still UBI, this MMO is not going to happen (unless they work with some other publisher). Also due to extremely steep system requirements for BoB, it will scare off about 90% of AH player base. Therefore HT can update their 6+ years old engine without any competition.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #32 on:** August 07, 2006, 03:57:06 PM »

Will the flight model, and interface still suck?

How about having your head stuck on an unmovable pole?

Stringer · « **Reply #33 on:** August 07, 2006, 04:32:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Saintaw
If this makes hitech's gerbils pedal faster to get the theatrethingieiforgotthename out... all good!

Gerbils?? Of all the things or animals you could have picked and you went for gerbils??

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #34 on:** August 07, 2006, 04:36:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Kweassa
Unfortunately Star, the 'community' itself tends to move around. Like Yeager playfully pointed out, if everyone had it your way people would be still playing WB or AW - games that are relatively inferior in many aspects when compared to AH. Many of the AH folk were once the AW community and the WB community too. In the end, all of them deserted AW and WB in the face of AH. There's no guarantee the same would not happen to AH.

I was once an IL-2 basher too. The first of its series had admittably some issues, and the FM, DM, and GM were quite not perfected yet. However, IMO they've perfected it all. To tell you the truth, apart from some torque characteristics I really don't feel that much difference between IL2 and AH FM nowadays. What I can pull of in a Spit or a 109 in IL2, I can do it in AH, and vice versa. The feeling of each plane's 'edge of the envelope' are also very simular. The only difference I feel in IL2/FB is that the US planes cannot pull that uber-flap crap, and the more variety of situations happening in IL-2 due to the better detailed FM, not to mention also the gunnery feeling a lot more realistic.

Frankly, I don't think this is something to just laugh at. Sooner or later, if they really do put out a MMOG based on IL/2 or BoB engine, I fear the only advantage AH2 would hold over the new game would be that AH2 has lower system requirements.

I dont disagree with you. You just asked who would stay loyal to AH, and I answered. Me. And you are exactly right, if EA hadn't killed AW, I'd still be there. Crappy graphics, poor damage model, relaxed realism and all the other problems it had. I tried AH back when we still had some hope AW was going to survive, and I didnt like it. I came back reluctantly after AW died, and still didnt like it, didnt come back for years. I LEARNED to like it because I missed the people. They are still here (alot of them). Now for the most part I enjoy flying in AH, but I'm comfortable not flying too. I fly when the mood strikes me, and when I have time, but I keep active here always. Would I ever move? Possible, but it would have to entail an enmasse move of almost all the AW vets to somewhere else. I dont see that happening.

Bodhi · « **Reply #35 on:** August 07, 2006, 04:43:11 PM »

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Originally posted by expat
oh and by the way you have flown a world war 2 fighter ??? so how can you say that one flight sim has a better fm than another ????

Tell ya what there expat... I have more time in, around, and building WW2 fighters, light bombers, and heavy ombers than you'd even think of dreaming of. Then again, thats what I do for a living, restore and maintain vintage fighters. Not just American stuff, but have worked on British, German, and VVS equipment. So, while I am not a WW2 pilot, I have a fair understanding of the period and a fair amount of the aircraft included.

Bruno · « **Reply #36 on:** August 07, 2006, 04:49:39 PM »

yeah he changes the oil so he knows how they should fly...

RTSigma · « **Reply #37 on:** August 07, 2006, 04:54:11 PM »

Heres one thing you have to realize, how far along is this from actually happening? Remember it has to be green-lighted first by Ubisoft, THEN developed, beta-tested, checked, optimized and by then where will AH be? While IL-2 and AH have their differences, I play IL-2 (Pacific Fighters actually) when I want to be a "pilot" and fly against enemy planes in historical sets and missions and not worry about fighting a Spit16 in a P-40E. However, AH2 draws me because of how fun it is to fly with other people and the fun of it all. Until IL-2 can sufficiently capture that feeling and excitement I get in AH2 without it being a lot like WW2OL, then HTC has nothing to worry about.

Bruno · « **Reply #38 on:** August 07, 2006, 05:00:56 PM »

BoB won't be out until 2007. An MMO is just as Russians stated. Oleg's been toying with this idea for a long time. He even used to post on this forum a long time ago. Since the original Il2 beta came out he stopped posting here. He mentioned on numerous occasions some interest in an MMO. However, AH is great game unto itself and even if Oleg opened an MMO tomorrow I doubt it would affect AH at all.

HTC has their loyal customers and appeals to a slightly different crowd. Same with Oleg. Plus the system requirements to run BoB are going to be high, Oleg has said this. Not many players (those in AH and in FB) will have the system needed to run an MMO 'BoB'.

LePaul · « **Reply #39 on:** August 07, 2006, 06:36:55 PM »

Competition...and choice...is a good thing.

Bodhi · « **Reply #40 on:** August 07, 2006, 07:08:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Bruno
yeah he changes the oil so he knows how they should fly...

LOL, yeah, thats all I do...

You're just like storch, a know nothing blow hard.... You can crawl back under your rock now.

Bodhi · « **Reply #41 on:** August 07, 2006, 07:09:01 PM »

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Originally posted by LePaul
Competition...and choice...is a good thing.

That is a very correct statement.

Bruno · « **Reply #42 on:** August 07, 2006, 07:16:30 PM »

I was around long before storch...

You didn't the answer the guys questions anyway, you just pretended that your monkey wrenching means something. With all your 'experience' it should be easy for you to point out where Oleg has got it wrong...

Do you know Oleg's background btw..?

Slash27 · « **Reply #43 on:** August 07, 2006, 07:22:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Bruno
yeah he changes the oil so he knows how they should fly...

Sounds like he's a step up on some of us. Whats your expertise?

Bodhi · « **Reply #44 on:** August 07, 2006, 07:40:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Bruno
I was around long before storch...

Doesn't change the fact that you are a carbon copy of storch.

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Originally posted by Bruno
You didn't the answer the guys questions anyway, you just pretended that your monkey wrenching means something. With all your 'experience' it should be easy for you to point out where Oleg has got it wrong...

I think the speeds are off, the handling feels mushy (Don't have an LOA in a 51, but have time in the back seat of a TF, and they fly ALOT different than IL2's), and other than eye candy, I think the feel is wrong. I do however like the damage model, that is much better than here.

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Originally posted by Bruno
Do you know Oleg's background btw..?

Kurt Tank's nephew smuggled back to Russia after the war in a cache of leather studded luftwhiner undies????