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Offline outbreak

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« on: August 07, 2006, 10:40:18 AM »
Well as seen below in my sig my AMD Athlon is at 1.74GHz when its Stock Speed is 1.8ghz, Now i know that people have Overclocked this CPU to 2.5 easy with just stock cooling, Is their anyone that has any idea of how i can atleast bump it up to its Stock speed of 1.8 or even above in the 2GHz range? Any help is much appreciated!

Some sys info:

MB: Gigabyte GA-K8NF-9 Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard

CPU:AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 2000MHz HT Socket 939 Processor

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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2006, 11:29:05 AM »
Yea - you change the CPU Clock multipler in the BIOS.

For example, if you are running at 10.0x (multipler), try increasing this by increments of 0.5x until your desired clock speed is achieved.

Be careful, as any changes you make in the BIOS could permanantly damage your hardware.    Reco going over this with a seasoned OC'er before trying it yourself.  (or find more info via google).

Good luck!

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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2006, 11:35:03 AM »
If u click on the CPU-Z Validation it shows that my Multiplyer is x9, So how much would i increase it then? 0.3x?

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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2006, 11:38:01 AM »
I believe you can only increase it in .5x increments.  Shouldnt be a problem.

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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2006, 02:36:10 PM »
HeHe Well, Trial By Error i guess, Was able to Clock it to 1.868, After setting it at 208 on the CPU Clock it would not boot and i had to Flash the Bios, Dont know why its doing that as these things are supposed to clock to 2.5 easily, Might just have a CPU with an attitude, But atleast she  is running at her stock speed of 1.8 now!! Thanx for the help

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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2006, 03:00:29 PM »
Good deal!

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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2006, 09:50:00 PM »
what type of ram are you running outbreak ?  It could be that your ram wont run over a 208 fsb with tight memory timmings like  2 or 2.5  cas latency , some times loosening the timming will allow you to bump the fsb up to the 220 area . I can give ya a hand overclocking if ya want , its one of my hobbies 8)   38

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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2006, 07:32:20 AM »
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Originally posted by outbreak
Well as seen below in my sig my AMD Athlon is at 1.74GHz when its Stock Speed is 1.8ghz, Now i know that people have Overclocked this CPU to 2.5 easy with just stock cooling, Is their anyone that has any idea of how i can atleast bump it up to its Stock speed of 1.8 or even above in the 2GHz range? Any help is much appreciated!

Some sys info:

MB: Gigabyte GA-K8NF-9 Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard

CPU:AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 2000MHz HT Socket 939 Processor


Go to the gigabyte website and look for "Easy Tune", Ive been running my XP2500 near 400 FSB using this app, with air cooling, for years.

edit: easy tune is a Windows app btw, no trip to the bios needed. I'm pretty sure it only works with gigabyte boards.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2006, 07:42:21 AM by x0847Marine »

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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2006, 10:53:20 AM »
In order to put the frontside to a higher clock you have to give the ram more time, overall its doubtfull that buys any extra speed.

So if your ram is for example at 2.5/3/2.5 you need to up that to 3/4/3 then try a  higher fsb clock. Also if it has set 1T command rate need to be 2T. Overall since the ram then slows down until you reach pretty high fsb clock frequency you loose some ram speed for higher cpu clock.

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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2006, 12:02:09 AM »
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In order to put the frontside to a higher clock you have to give the ram more time, overall its doubtfull that buys any extra speed.

So if your ram is for example at 2.5/3/2.5 you need to up that to 3/4/3 then try a  higher fsb clock. Also if it has set 1T command rate need to be 2T. Overall since the ram then slows down until you reach pretty high fsb clock frequency you loose some ram speed for higher cpu clock.

ciao schutt


My game benches with loose timming( 2.5 -3-3-10 1T @ 3Ghz show a big improvement over my tight timmings (2-3-3-6  1T @ 2.7ghz . As long as u get a decent bump in cpu mhz , lossening the ram is going to be worth it . If he doesnt want to lossen the timmings he could just use a memory divider,but all this depends on what kind of ram he has .  38

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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2006, 05:09:28 PM »
Easy Tune adjusts mem, fsb.. everything at once. Its a great app for Gigabyte boards that monitors cpu temps and will shut down all OC'ing if it gets too warm. It also runs a series of stress tests to ensure your mem, or whatever, wont be clocked too agressively creating problems.

If your AMD is unlocked, you can adjust the heck out if it.. all in Windows.

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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2006, 11:16:51 PM »
ok......i have to ask...really stupid question....but what is/how do you overclock a cpu? what can it help with?

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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2006, 08:17:32 AM »
Overclocking can involve 3 things (at least the ones i know of)

CPU(central Processing Unit)
GPU(graphics processing unit)
RAM(Both sytem and video)


Overclocking inceases the clock speed of the processor like on all Intel processors its on the box and i know AMD has it somwhere like 3GHz 2.66GHz ect.

Overclocking system parts normally involves the system BIOS whichyou hit like F1 or F2 or Esc or somthing to get into


or u could go for software overclocking which uses software to overclock but some still go for tried and true BIOS overclocking.

for video cards like mine that i overclock its an ASUS card so it will let me uses ASUS Smart Doctor (software) to overclock my GPU and ram

but others typicly give u OC software as well.

i know the 7800GT has a BIOS but you have to use NVidias software to acsess it. but its so much easier for video cards if you just use software.


NOTE: increasing clock speed WILL increase heat production!
 increasing voltage to get increased clocks WILL increase heat production for whatever u overclock!\


what it helps w/ would be if u do it right and to a limit will increase A processors proformance by much but of course you risk melting a 800$ processor and it voids warrenty.

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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2006, 08:17:32 AM »
Overclocking can involve 3 things (at least the ones i know of)

CPU(central Processing Unit)
GPU(graphics processing unit)
RAM(Both sytem and video)


Overclocking inceases the clock speed of the processor like on all Intel processors its on the box and i know AMD has it somwhere like 3GHz 2.66GHz ect.

Overclocking system parts normally involves the system BIOS whichyou hit like F1 or F2 or Esc or somthing to get into


or u could go for software overclocking which uses software to overclock but some still go for tried and true BIOS overclocking.

for video cards like mine that i overclock its an ASUS card so it will let me uses ASUS Smart Doctor (software) to overclock my GPU and ram

but others typicly give u OC software as well.

i know the 7800GT has a BIOS but you have to use NVidias software to acsess it. but its so much easier for video cards if you just use software.


NOTE: increasing clock speed WILL increase heat production!
 increasing voltage to get increased clocks WILL increase heat production for whatever u overclock!\


what it helps w/ would be if u do it right and to a limit will increase A processors proformance by much but of course you risk melting a 800$ processor and it voids warrenty.

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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2006, 12:24:21 PM »
Overclocking will probably buy you 1 to 10 percent faster game... at the risk of ruining your hardware & nullifying your waranty. In most cases the troubly is not worth the gain, having a better set up windows with less processes, more ram or more sleep gives you way more performance in ah2.

If you want to see how fast you can go or if you make it run out of spec do it, but dont expect to see a prolongation in cpu & components livetime. It is not like you get 50% free extra power more like you get 5 percent verry costly extra power.