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Offline Sandman

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« on: August 07, 2006, 04:34:49 PM »
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1223380,00.html

While I don't believe that boxes like this should be surrendered on demand to the insurance companies or the police, I think a traffic accident is probable cause to let the authorities have a look at what your vehicle was actually doing before an impact.

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Offline Mustaine

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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2006, 04:38:49 PM »
Im having dejavue of a locked topic in the o-club's past where nazi's, liberals, republicans, and even dandelions were attacked in posts. alarmists went into a rage about "teh govenrment" or "big brother" watching them and all that.



i could be wrong, and the topic wasn't locked, but is did come up over a year ago if not more.
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2006, 04:42:50 PM »
dandelions ????

I had to lookup this one as it sound exactly like : Dent de lion (Lion's tooth)

FYI in French it's a "Pissenlit" pee in bed ... not really better :D
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2006, 04:57:56 PM »
I work for a negligence attorney.

No thank you :D
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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2006, 05:02:54 PM »
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I work for a negligence attorney.

No thank you :D


So... a device of this type would make it more difficult to prove negligence?
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2006, 05:05:41 PM »
From: clicky

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Recorder data may also present problems for drivers with automobile warranties. Some wonder if vehicle manufacturers are using safety data to void warranties. Some people in Internet chat rooms have alleged Mitsubishi is doing just that to those who drive its racy Evolution VIII in amateur weekend races.

Even if not true, the existence of such stories shows people's concerns about this kind of technology, says Stanley. "If it's not controlled, it allows powerful institutions to increase their control over ordinary individuals," he says.

For example: When AutoWeek conducted handling tests on a mundane Chevy Malibu Maxx hatchback earlier this year, the recorder automatically alerted GM OnStar officials, who called the car to make sure the driver was OK after a particularly severe cornering maneuver. The driver was, but later said he resented the intrusion.


Little disturbing.... I'd be a bit torqued if a system like OnStar had someone call me to see if I was ok while I was driving.

Problem with this kinda thing is that once it's there, the potential and opportunity to abuse it are always present.  After a number of years they subtley change laws and then it's a massive problem.
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2006, 05:07:19 PM »
Another invasion of privacy.

Sorry..It's my car.

Fugk off State Farm.
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2006, 05:14:34 PM »
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So... a device of this type would make it more difficult to prove negligence?


To be honest, I didn't read the article.  Just figured anything that lets us lie less is probably bad :)
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2006, 05:17:28 PM »
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Another invasion of privacy.

Sorry..It's my car.

Fugk off State Farm.


but the streets are own buy who?
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2006, 05:31:15 PM »
A simple decceleration meter would do the exact job of this, and wouldn't be nearly as complicated a device or as easy to alter to spy.


The idea is good.  The follow through broke the shaft.
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2006, 05:31:41 PM »
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but the streets are own buy who?


Bu us, the citizens. We pay for them.
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2006, 05:47:57 PM »
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We pay for them.


so you can use it, but its not yours, am i wrong?
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2006, 05:51:30 PM »
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so you can use it, but its not yours, am i wrong?


As much his and mine as anyone else's. Infinitely more so than an Insurance company's.
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Offline ASTAC

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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2006, 06:26:44 PM »
regardless of who owns the roads..you own your car...and this is a blantant invasion of privacy with NO OTHER INTENTION, but to let big brother have a closer look at yet another aspect of your life.

Looks like I will never buy another new car. Not unless there is a way I can remove or disable the "black box" with out a detrimental effect on the car.

Hope I can get parts for a 2001 model in 2050.
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2006, 06:38:21 PM »
There aren't that many collisions that would require the "black box" to tattle on the driver. The evidence of what happened is there at the scene.

Personally I thought attorneys were negligence. Removing them should be listed as "public service" or at least sanitation facilitation. :t
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