The planes we truly need most.

[Brooke]

I filled in my list (mostly) to include UK and Germany.

Aircraft production in WWII

---- US ----

For the US, here are the production fighters, with numbers produced listed (from America's Hundred Thousand):

P-47, 15683
P-51, 15486
P-40, 13143
F6F, 12275
F4U, 11514
P-38, 10037
P-39, 9529 <--- not in AH yet
F4F/FM, 7905

For bombers (from https://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/PopTopics/AAFaircraft.htm and others):

B-24, 18190
B-17, 12692
B-25, 9186 <-- not yet in AH
A-20, 7385
B-26, 5157

TBM, 9837
SB2C, 7140 <--- not yet in AH
SBD, 5936

---- JAPAN ----

IJN aircraft from http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/ijnaf.htm and from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_Japan%2C_World_War_II

A6M Zero, 10449
Ki-43 Hayabusa (Oscar), 5919
Ki-84 Hayate (Frank), 3449
Ki-61 Hien (Tony), 3159
Ki-45 Toryu (Nick), 1701
Ki-44 Shoki (Tojo), 1225
A5M (Claude), 1094
J2M Raiden (Jack), 476
N1K Shiden (George), 415

D4Y Suisei (Judy), 2038
D3A Aichi (Val), 1495
B6N Tenzan (Jill), 1268
B5N (Kate), 1149
B7A Ryusei (Grace), 114

G4M (Betty), 2446
Ki-21 (Sally), 2064
P1Y Ginga (Frances), 1098
G3M (Nell), 1048
Ki-67 Hiryu (Peggy), 767

---- RUSSIA ----

From
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aircraft_of_the_Soviet_Union_and_the_CIS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_Russia%2C_World_War_II
http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/90/363/9941_roosevelt.html

Yak-9, 16769
La-5, 9920
I-16, 9004
Yak-1, 8720
Yak-7, 6339
LaGG-3, 6258
La-7, 5753
P-39, 5007 (from US)
Yak-3, 4848
MiG-3, 3120
Hurricane, 2952 (from UK)
P-63, 2421 (from US)
Spitfire, 1331 (from UK)

Il-2, 29937

Pe-2, 11427
SB-2, 6656
Il-4, 5256
A-20, 2700 (from US)
Tu-2, 2527
DB-3, 1528

---- UK ----

From Wikipedia entries starting from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_the_RAF and using http://www.rafweb.org/aircraftA-D.htm to judge which are WWII aircraft.

Spitfire, 20351
Hurricane, 14000
Typhoon, 3330
Seafire, 2334
Tempest, 1702
Defiant, 1064

Mosquito, 7781
Beaufighter, 5928
Beaufort, 2080

Wellington, 11461
Lancaster, 7377
Halifax, 6176
Blenheim, 4422
Stirling, 2383
Whitley, 1737
Hampden, 1430

Martin Baltimore, 1575 (from US)
Douglas Boston
Brewster Buffalo
B-17
Douglas Havoc
Curtiss Kittyhawk
B-24
Martin Marauder
Martin Maryland
B-25
Curtis Mohawk
P-51
P-47
Vultee Vengence
Lockheed Ventura

---- Germany ----

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_production_during_WW2, but using individual entries for aircraft production.

Bf 109, 35000
FW 190, 20010
Bf 110, 15000
Me 262, 1430

Ju 88, 15000
He 111, 7300
Do 217, 1366
He 177, 1146

Ju 87, 6000

[1K3]

We should have Fw-190A-3 and Fw-190A-6........ Remove the 190A-5.

Our Fw-190A-5 in AH is too slow at deck and too fast at FTH (full throttle height).

[splitatom]

they need to have some of the misles that the gemans invented like the mini v2 surface to air and the german air to air that got put in to service at the end of the war in very small number atached to me 262 and 190s they also need air to ship misles ataced to ju 88 or was it the other bomer like it also need the he hs 129 with the 75mm in the front also need marker bombs and napalm and all of planes listed above and below this one and the replys need to have spell check
this is snowey

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by EagleDNY
Most of the rides you folks are advocating would end being used hard for about a month until the novelty wore off, then they would end up as hanger queens after a lot of whining about how poor their AH performance is compared to what it "should be".

Nightfighters are basically useless in this game, since we don't have NIGHT and don't need radar to find targets.  

If you're going add rides, lets add rides that can compete with the La7s, Spit XVI, P47N, etc. that they will face in the LW Arenas.  It seems an awful waste of time to have HTC do all the work modeling a ride that ends up as a hangar queen.

Give us something else to spend perkies on:

P51H
Do-335
He-162
P-80A
Meteor III

All perked, and proud of it.  Everything in this list was in theatre, and either used operationally or in the process of being trained up to operational status.

For sure, anything on this list that shows up is going to get some decent flight time.

EagleDNY
$.02

The I.A.R. 81c, could compete with the LWA rides with EASE.   I'd fly it exclusively as a fighter if ever added, I'm sure Treize69 would as well.   So I'll have to BS on your post.    Read up on it, the Allies thought it was a 190.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Widewing
This incorrect. Operational data for the P-61 is readily available and it disputes your assertion.

Navy night fighters were in service long before the P-61 was operational in the Pacific. In addition, the P-61 was a USAAF fighter and not assigned to protect Navy assets. P-61As entered Pacific theater combat service in the summer of 1944, operating out of Saipan.

In Europe, P-61s were very successful despite being available in only very small numbers. There was a lot of pressure from the RAF to have American units equipped with the Mosquito MK.XVII NF, and the USAAF initially seemed to agree. Previously at Eglin Field, a P-61A was tested against the Mossie MK.II NF and the conclusion was that there was little difference in performance. Northrop representatives and P-61 pilots of the 422nd NFS utterly disagreed that the Mosquito was surperior and challanged the RAF to prove their claim.

With the 422nd in near mutiny and to satisfy everyone else, a flyoff between the P-61B and a Mosquito Mk.XVII N.F. was flown in Britain by the USAAF. The P-61B was deemed the winner, much to the RAF's disbelief. With that, the AAF released the 422nd NFS for combat. The 422nd would be credited with 43 confirmed kills for no losses. These included around 12 Bf 110G-4 and Ju-88G night fighters as well as several Fw 190s. P-61s also flew a lot of night and day-time interdiction sorties against German ground units and transportation targets.

P-61s flying with the upper turret removed demonstrated excellent climb rate, getting to 20k in 8.5 minutes. The corresponding reduction in drag allowed for a max speed of about 375 mph at 20,000 feet (most of the 422nd's P-61s were -5 and -10 models and most had the power turret removed prior to being issued to the squadron). In mock combat, the P-61 could fly circles around any Mosquito, having a turn radius superior to any USAAF fighter in service at the time. In July of 1945, the P-61C entered service with turbocharged R-2800s. This model could exceed 430 mph at altitude and climb to 30,000 feet in 14.6 minutes.

P-61s remained in service alongside F-82s into the early 1950s when they were gradually replaced by the Lockheed F-94A Starfire. In Korea, the F-94s did not post a very impressive record. Grumman's F7F-3N was more effective and the Douglas F3D Skyknight was, by far, the most effective night fighter in Korea.

My regards,

Widewing

The Mossies had longer service records.   Also, the P-61C never saw combat.  The 61C had 15mph on the DH.98, but IMO, the DH.98 was the best nightfighter of WWII.

[SteveBailey]

P51H... perk it a little... would be easy to model, skins and panels already made.... etc

[Guppy35]

How bout a Beaufighter

Skip the 1946 SWOTL birds thanks:)

[Guppy35]

Almost forgot.  A B25C strafer for Toad's father before he's gone.

[MiloMorai]

Originally posted by SteveBailey
P51H... perk it a little... would be easy to model, skins and panels already made.... etc

P-51H had a completely different form than the P-51D.

[Nilsen]

ME410

JU-52

floatplane of some sort for ports and maybe for cruiser.

a russian bomber

Beufighter

190 A6

P 39

[MAVRK327]

THe DO-335 would be awesome in the game its top speed was like almost 500 mph and as far as the armament it would be nothing more that a 109-g14 cool plane to perk id say...

[Panzzer]

Any reliable sources for the DO-335 in action?

I've read Clostermann's book, if he says he saw one, then he might have seen one, haven't seen any other sources confirming this one...

[Panzzer]

Originally posted by Nilsen
P 39

Nilsen, you forgot the Pearl of the Skies, the Brewster, from your list.

[SteveBailey]

Originally posted by MiloMorai
P-51H had a completely different form than the P-51D.

Completely different?  no.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by SteveBailey
Completely different?  no.

Essentially yes.  Wing, engine, fuselage, Canopy, landing gear etc. Hard to find any compatable parts between the D and the H.