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Offline JAWS2003

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« Reply #105 on: November 11, 2006, 07:11:09 PM »
With the speed they update the planes in the game I doubt you'll see new planes any time soon.
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« Reply #106 on: November 13, 2006, 04:52:45 PM »
The MiG-3 may not have been significant on the level of the Yakovlev or Lavochkin fighters, but it was produced in massive quantities (over 30,000 total), and it stopped a large bombing raid on Moscow.

It wasn't very successful on the Eastern Front, as much of the fighting was at low altitude, and very few Soviet pilots had any real experience with the fighter. But, as it is, it had significant production numbers, and would be an important gap filler in the Russian planeset.
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Offline SCee

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« Reply #107 on: November 17, 2006, 11:11:40 PM »
How about something unique? Like the P61? (Black Widow)  I think this would be an interesting and fun a/c
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« Reply #108 on: November 17, 2006, 11:23:28 PM »
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Previously at Eglin Field, a P-61A was tested against the Mossie MK.II NF and the conclusion was that there was little difference in performance.
A NF II of 1942 vintage? The NF XVII was a NF II with American radar. When the P-61 arrived in Europe the Mossie NF 30 then in service was hands and feet above the P-61 in performance.
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« Reply #109 on: November 18, 2006, 12:21:36 AM »
i once met a guy on a plane who was an ex-USAAF nightfighter pilot.
he was wearing a P-61 baseball cap, but when i talked to him he said they all prefered the DH.98 to the P-61.
his words "The Mosquito was faster" and thats about all he had to say on the topic
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« Reply #110 on: November 25, 2006, 06:15:39 PM »
Mustang Mk1A
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« Reply #111 on: November 25, 2006, 09:04:59 PM »
I, for one, believe it would be a riot flying the little Polikarpov I-16. If you like the FM2 you'd have to love the little poli. Imagine, open cockpit flying. We need some french fighters, they did  have some. The little Cauldron fighters would be fun, I think they were tiny. I'm kinda rusty but what was the "pea shooter"? Seems it would be a fun decoy. Me 410 and the Me 309? It seems that the performance spectrum is pretty much covered. It would be neat to see some different rides though.
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« Reply #112 on: November 26, 2006, 05:34:38 AM »
I think we have quite excellent coverage now.  To add to it, I'd like to see planes added according to how many of them were used in WWII or so that scenarios can be rounded out.

I'd like to see the Betty, the He 111 (not nearly as fast as the Ju 88), and whatever the most-prevalent Russian planes were prior to late war variants.
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« Reply #113 on: November 26, 2006, 01:41:30 PM »
Beaufighter.
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« Reply #114 on: November 27, 2006, 03:05:28 AM »
The Beau, well, a torp carrier, rocked loaded cannon armed menace to ships in the daytime, and then also a nightfighter.
And 316 mph isn't that bad...
But if you're all into night ops HTC would have to add:
1. Some aircraft, i.e. Beau, Mossie NF, Me110NF, P-61
2. A zone of proper darkness.
3. The inboard radar.
4. Exhaust flares.
5. Icons off in the dark.
6. Marking flares.
7. Schrage Muzik?
8. Search beams?

All doeable, and would make nightfighting FUN IMHO.
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It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #115 on: November 27, 2006, 05:19:48 AM »
I got interested in the number of planes produced by various countries in WWII.  Here's what I have so far.

---- US ----

For the US, here are the production fighters, with numbers produced listed (from America's Hundred Thousand):

P-47, 15683
P-51, 15486
P-40, 13143
F6F, 12275
F4U, 11514
P-38, 10037
P-39, 9529 <--- not in AH yet
F4F/FM, 7905

For bombers (from https://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/PopTopics/AAFaircraft.htm and others):

B-24, 18190
B-17, 12692
B-25, 9186 <-- not yet in AH
A-20, 7385
B-26, 5157

TBM, 9837
SB2C, 7140 <--- not yet in AH
SBD, 5936

---- JAPAN ----

IJN aircraft from http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/ijnaf.htm and from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_Japan%2C_World_War_II

A6M Zero, 10449
Ki-43 Hayabusa (Oscar), 5919
Ki-84 Hayate (Frank), 3449
Ki-61 Hien (Tony), 3159
Ki-45 Toryu (Nick), 1701
Ki-44 Shoki (Tojo), 1225
A5M (Claude), 1094
J2M Raiden (Jack), 476
N1K Shiden (George), 415

D4Y Suisei (Judy), 2038
D3A Aichi (Val), 1495
B6N Tenzan (Jill), 1268
B5N (Kate), 1149
B7A Ryusei (Grace), 114

G4M (Betty), 2446
Ki-21 (Sally), 2064
P1Y Ginga (Frances), 1098
G3M (Nell), 1048
Ki-67 Hiryu (Peggy), 767

---- RUSSIA ----

From
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aircraft_of_the_Soviet_Union_and_the_CIS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_Russia%2C_World_War_II
http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/90/363/9941_roosevelt.html

Yak-9, 16769
La-5, 9920
I-16, 9004
Yak-1, 8720
Yak-7, 6339
LaGG-3, 6258
La-7, 5753
P-39, 5007 (supplied from US)
Yak-3, 4848
MiG-3, 3120
Hurricane, 2952 (supplied from UK)
P-63, 2421 (supplied from US)
Spitfire, 1331 (supplied from UK)

Il-2, 29937

Pe-2, 11427
SB-2, 6656
Il-4, 5256
A-20, 2700 (supplied from US)
Tu-2, 2527
DB-3, 1528
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« Reply #116 on: November 28, 2006, 07:25:43 AM »
P39 in AH would be a mediocre bird, while the P63 (same looks) would be a monster.
So, I vote for them.
The Beaufighter would present a versatility unknown yet, Cannons, rockets and a torp. Vote.
Then we have some need for a USSR Twin/attacker. There are 3 I belive, just not too well informed who is the best, Pe-2, Tu-2, or ?? Vote
The Il-10 would be the best anti-tank & attacker in AH. Il-2 on steroids.
A-26, likewise would be A-20 on steroids. Vote, especially for the basic graphics and flight modelling are basically there.
The Nick might add something to the late war Japanese set, - but we have the best ones...but it's a fast twin with a nasty cannonload, so...vote.
Yak 3 is looking close to the others but faster and more nimble, with rather light armament. A total MA contender, with most of the graphic and FM design done. Vote.

This is all MA stuff. But not much more around. The gap is much bigger in the early planeset, and maybe that's why so few play that scenario?
I'll make a list for that later ;)
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It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #117 on: November 28, 2006, 10:19:39 AM »
B-29
FW200 Condor
JU86
JU52
P82 Defiant
Sea planes would be cool too.
P39 Airacobra
F2A Buffalo
P61 Black Widow
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« Reply #118 on: December 08, 2006, 06:23:19 AM »
Most of the rides you folks are advocating would end being used hard for about a month until the novelty wore off, then they would end up as hanger queens after a lot of whining about how poor their AH performance is compared to what it "should be".

Nightfighters are basically useless in this game, since we don't have NIGHT and don't need radar to find targets.  

If you're going add rides, lets add rides that can compete with the La7s, Spit XVI, P47N, etc. that they will face in the LW Arenas.  It seems an awful waste of time to have HTC do all the work modeling a ride that ends up as a hangar queen.

Give us something else to spend perkies on:

P51H
Do-335
He-162
P-80A
Meteor III

All perked, and proud of it.  Everything in this list was in theatre, and either used operationally or in the process of being trained up to operational status.

For sure, anything on this list that shows up is going to get some decent flight time.

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« Reply #119 on: December 08, 2006, 10:29:57 AM »
Ju-288
Ju-52
Me-410
Do-17
P-39
P-36
B-29
B-25
He-111
Do-335 (yes, an experimental one, but ¿why not?)
PBY
Dornier Wal
Me-262 in 55mm cannon equiped version
Bristol Beaufighter
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