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Offline FALCONWING

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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2006, 08:34:54 AM »
my 2 cents...

1)  in order to have a low rank you have to be scoring in all categories
2)  many low rank pilots are getting their rank by using vehicles/bombers and are not scoring with fiters
3)  fiter scoring is messed up imho...high k:d ratios which require patience and survival skills screw you up because your points and kills/hour and kills/sortie are horrible.  therefore to get a good fiter score you are rewarded by simply upping into furballs and spraying away. you will improve 3 categories vs 1.  would like to see k/d weighted more.
4) i have a low score but it is mainly because im in a squad that runs all different missions and that seems to affect all categories.  since i dont gv (tank town) or buff except for captures i do use the old "rockets into a town" and ju87s into a factory technique to offset all the deaths and lack of damage that i get penalized for by trying to sneak goons and m3s into towns.  again i would love to see captures weighted as they are more often unsuccessful then not.

so as you are suggesting...scoring is bs...most low raked pilots are not "fiter aces" and often they are team players who are getting scoring in all categories that droop their rank.  these guys probably are more interested in ma battles then going to the da.

i like the da..have learned alot in there (ty creton and skyrock)...but really the guy with more experience in there will win as he/she has mastered merges that almost never occur in the ma.  so im not sure what it proves...there are guys i can smoke in the da that i dont like to see in ma fights because they are better when the variables (speed..e...alt) are not equal:aok
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2006, 08:40:48 AM »
pacerr  meltdown.....surely you jest.lol. he once was so p.o.ed at one of my squaddies because he was hunting him down and wasting him that he came on private channel...frotthing at the mouth and screaming..hilarious.

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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2006, 08:50:54 AM »
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Originally posted by FALCONWING
my 2 cents...

1)  in order to have a low rank you have to be scoring in all categories
2)  many low rank pilots are getting their rank by using vehicles/bombers and are not scoring with fiters
3)  fiter scoring is messed up imho...high k:d ratios which require patience and survival skills screw you up because your points and kills/hour and kills/sortie are horrible.  therefore to get a good fiter score you are rewarded by simply upping into furballs and spraying away. you will improve 3 categories vs 1.  would like to see k/d weighted more.
4) i have a low score but it is mainly because im in a squad that runs all different missions and that seems to affect all categories.  since i dont gv (tank town) or buff except for captures i do use the old "rockets into a town" and ju87s into a factory technique to offset all the deaths and lack of damage that i get penalized for by trying to sneak goons and m3s into towns.  again i would love to see captures weighted as they are more often unsuccessful then not.

so as you are suggesting...scoring is bs...most low raked pilots are not "fiter aces" and often they are team players who are getting scoring in all categories that droop their rank.  these guys probably are more interested in ma battles then going to the da.

i like the da..have learned alot in there (ty creton and skyrock)...but really the guy with more experience in there will win as he/she has mastered merges that almost never occur in the ma.  so im not sure what it proves...there are guys i can smoke in the da that i dont like to see in ma fights because they are better when the variables (speed..e...alt) are not equal:aok


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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2006, 08:59:47 AM »
....and all of the while they can play "Admiral Halsey" while they move their cartoon Task Group around the map.    

Vudak, if you see me online I'll go.   I'm not great, but I've shot em all down, at one point or another.
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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2006, 09:49:16 AM »
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....and all of the while they can play "Admiral Halsey" while they move their cartoon Task Group around the map.    

Vudak, if you see me online I'll go.   I'm not great, but I've shot em all down, at one point or another.


Me first, me first, will you DA with me Mash?  You are right about not bein great but wrong about having shot all of them down.  Lets try to make that right :D

If you win, I will follow your advice about what to do with my carrots, hehe

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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2006, 09:52:06 AM »
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Me first, me first, will you DA with me Mash?  You are right about not bein great but wrong about having shot all of them down.  Lets try to make that right :D

If you win, I will follow your advice about what to do with my carrots, hehe


I think it's sad these "shades" pop up.   The advice would still stand either way.   Who were you "before"?
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2006, 10:04:26 AM »
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I think it's sad these "shades" pop up.   The advice would still stand either way.   Who were you "before"?


BugsBunny Jr?  Does it matter?  Or will it help you make the decison to fight or not?  All kidding asside, we will both learn something from it.

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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2006, 10:32:21 AM »
Not that I have *ever* been a low ranking pilot, but....

The only times I have had any luck in the DA finding someone is when one base is used by everyone with killshooter off.  Not exactly dueling, but whatever.  Are there better times for using the DA when people (who can and want to duel) are available?   While I have not jumped back and forth from the MA to the DA in search of someone to duel with, virtually every time I enter the DA it's empty.  I found the training arena to have some good fights on occasion (even though they aren't lethal).  I suppose timing is everything.  



Regards,

Malta


p.s.  The few times I have been asked to enter the DA I have declined because I found interesting fighting in the MA.  Fwiw, I am an advocate of a fighter town arena.

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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2006, 10:59:51 AM »
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Not that I have *ever* been a low ranking pilot, but....

The only times I have had any luck in the DA finding someone is when one base is used by everyone with killshooter off.  Not exactly dueling, but whatever.  Are there better times for using the DA when people (who can and want to duel) are available?   While I have not jumped back and forth from the MA to the DA in search of someone to duel with, virtually every time I enter the DA it's empty.  I found the training arena to have some good fights on occasion (even though they aren't lethal).  I suppose timing is everything.  



Regards,

Malta


p.s.  The few times I have been asked to enter the DA I have declined because I found interesting fighting in the MA.  Fwiw, I am an advocate of a fighter town arena.


Malta (and everyone who's expressed interest in getting into the DA),

For the past week or so, Bad Company Clan and friends have been in the DA every night from approximately 9:00ish EST to the wee hours.  I hope this continues (I'm certainly game).

Anyone is welcome, and I encourage you all to drop by.  We're usually on voice channel 202 or 203, and we'll all let you know what the rules are when you happen to stop in.  Often, we circle around and do 1 v 1's.  Sometimes, we'll do team fights.  Some of the guys enjoy FFA's.  That's not exactly my favorite but there's more then one field ;)

Any plane, keep the alt reasonable (4kish), and come have a blast.  You can find fights against everything from Spits and La7's to F6F's, 109s, Ki84s, P40's, 38's, and, of course ( :D ) Corsairs.

The past week has had the added fun of watching Jamusta learn Pro Peddals.  The next week, you'll all get to make fun of me trying to do the same :)

I have to say I have more fun, and more good fights, in one night in there then I could ever hope to get in the MA.  We have good sticks, new sticks, and everything in between.  Come on in and get some good practice.

All are welcome.

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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2006, 11:20:58 AM »
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BugsBunny Jr?  Does it matter?  Or will it help you make the decison to fight or not?  All kidding asside, we will both learn something from it.


Damn right it matters.   I've been playing for over 4 years and am damn good at predicting "who the con is".    But I understand with "shades", they need the element of surprise. :aok    Even though a few have gone to "shades" but stick out like soar thumbs in terms of "flying style".
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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2006, 11:25:36 AM »
It's been a long time since i've been to the DA.  I would love to start going there again but as with malta, there is no-one in there when i'm online.  

I would love to join you vudak but it would be 2am, far past my bedtime.:)
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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2006, 11:33:40 AM »
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Damn right it matters.   I've been playing for over 4 years and am damn good at predicting "who the con is".    But I understand with "shades", they need the element of surprise. :aok    Even though a few have gone to "shades" but stick out like soar thumbs in terms of "flying style".


lol, so you can see their name when they are coming at you in the MA?  I dont think you have to wory about the surprise element with me.  I 4 years I have an assist on your panzer.
In anycase, I am just messing with ya.  You could have taken the oportunity for a good 1 vs 1 fight, but you did not :lol

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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2006, 12:51:49 PM »
Funny..... all i ever have to do is ask on Ch200 "Anyone want to go DA for a few fights?" - I usually find a victim or become one :).
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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2006, 01:02:23 PM »
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lol, so you can see their name when they are coming at you in the MA?  I dont think you have to wory about the surprise element with me.  I 4 years I have an assist on your panzer.
In anycase, I am just messing with ya.  You could have taken the oportunity for a good 1 vs 1 fight, but you did not :lol


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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2006, 01:03:38 PM »
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Funny..... all i ever have to do is ask on Ch200 "Anyone want to go DA for a few fights?" - I usually find a victim or become one :).


Me too.  SR was supposed to go last week but got caught up, which is cool.   I'll be in there sometime this weekend.
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