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Offline Tigger29

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« on: August 09, 2006, 07:18:20 PM »
Hey guys.. this isn't a question.. just a recommendation.

I have an AMD XP2000+ (1.7GHZ)... not exactly state of the art, but
this sucker seems faster than the 2.4GHZ P4's we have at work.. much faster.  768MB ram... 2X40GB 7200RPM hard drives (IDE)... nothing spectacular, but does the job.

I recently upgraded my video card from a GEFORCE 5200 128MB to a GEFORCE 6200 256MB.. and let me tell you.. the difference is astounding!

Before my framerates averaged about 20 to 22... if I looked straight up with no map showing, I might see 40.. if I flew into a lot of action, and there was a lot of smoke, flames, etc... it would really drop.. 5-8 frames max... zoomed in full zoom in a tank.. I'd be lucky to see 3 FPS...

NOW with the new card... hooked up to my 19" flatpanel now with DVI (instead of VGA cable) and no other hardware changes... 45-50FPS... looking straight up maxes out at 75fps!!!  Flames/action I still see 25+ and zoomed full zoom in a tank turret.. well.. 8fps.. but still an improvement!!!

To make matters even better, I loaded 1024 textures (previously at 512) and downloaded the high texture pack (just to see what happens) and guess what?  my frames actually seemed to improve a little!  I'm so happy.. this sucker is the best $35 I ever spent! (well it's up there anyway)  I was actually considering upgrading my computer just for this crazy, addicting game but now it seems I won't have to (It's plenty fast enough for everything else I do)

My next purchase will be a new CPU fan, as the last few months I've been flirting with overheat (140+ degrees F).. I actually had to disable overheat detection, as my computer kept turning itself off.  I've tried reapplying the paste and de-furballing my fans and fins and all, I just think this cooler has been too wimpy since I bought this computer 3 years ago.  Any suggestions?

Out of curiousity, how about you post your basic system specs and tell me your frame rates?  I'm curious.

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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2006, 10:02:31 PM »
I'm really suprised that 1024 textures makes your FR better. My frame rate is capped at 100 , and i see a low of 70ish in high traffic areas.

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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2006, 11:14:25 PM »
I suprised to with 768mbs of ram ... it runs the hires pak so nice.

well just to make ya temp jelous ... here's mine  its about 76-78 F in my house .

2500+ M barton @ 2.4 ghz , 2x 512 corsair extreame ,9600pro ,asus a7n8x-e dlx, Water cooled ...
85 fps ...  35-39  in extreame furballs  

Any thing over 54 deg C.  with a athlon cpu will cause look-ups and stutters in my experience ... I've been over clocking for a while now .

its takes a really good "mostly aluminum" heatsink fan combo to keep one under 46c when oced slightly(0.1-.25 ghz) .... its near impossiable to go higher without water ...
« Last Edit: August 10, 2006, 11:23:29 PM by Roscoroo »
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2006, 11:44:15 PM »
Specs in sig.

Run AH2 all eye candy at 1280x1024 (sweet spot for AH2 according to Skuzzy, or was it 1024x768)
hi res texture pack
textures at 1024

Frame rates capped by monitor 85fps.
Turn off vsnych can hit well over 500fps.
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2 x 2Gb Corsair 1066 DDR2 memory

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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2006, 11:33:22 PM »
Temps @ 76-78 degrees  :)



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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2006, 11:38:25 AM »
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Specs in sig.

Run AH2 all eye candy at 1280x1024 (sweet spot for AH2 according to Skuzzy, or was it 1024x768)
hi res texture pack
textures at 1024

Frame rates capped by monitor 85fps.
Turn off vsnych can hit well over 500fps.


I'm curious and I gotta ask...where you guys getting your systems?  Are you piecing them together or what?

I'm looking at upgrading my old dell 2400 soon.  

I'm looking at the HP  m7500y, Intel(R) Pentium(R) D 820 (2.8GHz, 2MB,800MHz FSB, 1GB DDR2-667MHz dual channel SDRAM, 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS

I'm getting a tad frustrated with my performance in AH2 with my Dell 2400.  I don't have a lot of cash to spend, but some of the systems I see listed here blow my mind away with $600+ video cards and such.  Just amazing.

I want good performance, but don't want to spend a TON of cash, will the m7500y be what I'm looking for?

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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2006, 05:07:11 PM »
A lot of us are building our own systems (choosing our own parts). It may sound pricey but it's actually cheaper than buying a pre-built HP.

Example:

Highest graphics card you can get costs $300, next step down is about $160.

Motherboards range in price a LOT. So do cooling systems. Let's go with a hypothetical system.

Case: $50
PSU: $75
Motherboard: $150
Processor (3+ GHz or so): $200 (give or take, this one depends)
Highest end video card you can get: $300
RAM (2GB): $250 (thereabouts)
Hard Drive: $150 (for ~200GB)
Sound Blaster Audigy: ~$75 (?)
DVD-RW: $50
Floppy Disk (actually useful in BIOS updating): $10

So you get a VERY high end system with kick-arse graphics, RAM, and CPU, a large new HD, all for (in this case) $1310.

A comparable setup sold to you by Dell or HP, despite the fact that they bog it down with proprietary hardware, OEM software, and all that other stuff, will cost you upwards of $3000 (if you're LUCKY!).

Also, when you buy Dell, or Gateway, or HP, you have the problem of not being able to upgrade later. You can choose a case that you KNOW will take standard ATX motherboards (so you can keep the case when you upgrade in 3 years), as opposed to my old Gateway case, which had a STAMPED STEEL backplate (that, quite conveniently, only fit the motherboard that came with it). You get the peace of mind in knowing that you have a common socket type, and not the most obscure types that Dell and HP seem to favor, which never allow you to upgrade your CPU later on. You know that your RAM type is common, and not RDRAM, or takes only one special type of PC2700 (like my sister's PC).

So it's not just about saving money, it's about picking a PC with the best parts for the best price, and knowing that you'll be able to change said parts later on in life, without fear.

That's my philosophy on it. I'm not buying a pre-built PC ever again, after I found the freedom with my current (custom-built) system.

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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2006, 10:49:48 PM »
My eVGA 7950GX2 rocks; I use 2GHZ od DDR Ram & I have my Athlon64 4000+ OC'd to 2.8GHZ...I hit 3GHZ but it wasn't stable on prime 95 for more than 30 minutes so I kicked it back down. I run the 1024 textures & all the eye candy turned on with the detail sliders maxed out, plus all my Nvidia settings are maxed out too, the AA & AF etc. My frame rates never go below 75fps & are well over 200fps usually. (The nvidia drivers vertical sync control doesn't sync)

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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2006, 10:50:59 PM »
Man... I have GOT to get a better graphics card!!!

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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2006, 05:25:11 AM »
Couple of questions.  10 years ago, I did the same thing where I worked.  We bought PC's boxes and then just upgraded the guts.  And, as an old fart in his 40's, the world of building PC's was about the only way to afford a system farther back than 10 years....I go back to the 1980's.

Perhaps it was the times, but the perceived approach was a matter of break/fix/warrantee issues and dependability.  My corporate experience has been that Compaq/HP has been that the systems run like tanks.

Is my perception perhaps skewed incorrectly then?

Also, are you buying your parts local or on the internet?  For someone who hasn't purchased PC parts in "e-centuries", where do I start?

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A lot of us are building our own systems (choosing our own parts). It may sound pricey but it's actually cheaper than buying a pre-built HP.

Example:

Highest graphics card you can get costs $300, next step down is about $160.

Motherboards range in price a LOT. So do cooling systems. Let's go with a hypothetical system.

That's my philosophy on it. I'm not buying a pre-built PC ever again, after I found the freedom with my current (custom-built) system.

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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2006, 07:26:18 AM »
Buy them wherever you want to, just decide well before you buy the first part.

Corporate PCs is another issue. Folks buy Dell because then Dell handles all repairs. However you generally can't update them too much (just a video card, maybe some RAM) before you're forced to buy an entirely new box to replace it.

Personally, I bought my parts online from newegg. If I ever get any free $$$ in the future (*stupid bills*) I'll shop there again.

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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2006, 08:22:05 AM »
Krusty is right & might I add....shop Newegg for everything you can & only buy elsewhere if:

A - the item you want is not in inventory

B - they charge taxes where you live

C - you find an incredible price too good to pass up somewhere else (it's worth an extra $10 or $15 to use Newegg, they are cheaper a lot of the time)

 Because Newegg has the fastest & most reliable processing & handling in the industry, I have gotten purchases from the egg in less than 24 hours to my door on more than one occasion. They also have a good return policy; 30 day refund or exchange, 1 year exchange only; & their RMA process is so easy it takes a little of the anger away when something doesn't work correctly.

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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2006, 10:34:03 AM »
Thanks Krusty, I'll check out newegg.

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Personally, I bought my parts online from newegg. If I ever get any free $$$ in the future (*stupid bills*) I'll shop there again.

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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2006, 11:05:57 AM »
Don't be afraid to shop around. Check other online stores if you like.

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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2006, 12:08:52 PM »
Nearest I can figure, I can save between $600-$800...

This is what I'm thinking about:

  • COOLER MASTER Centurion 532 RC-532-SKN1 Black Computer Casel
  • ABIT IC7-G MAXII Socket 478 Intel 875P ATX Intel Motherboard
  • Intel Pentium 4 3.0E Prescott 800MHz FSB Socket 478 Processor Model RK80546PG0801M
  • BFG Tech BFGR78256GSOC Geforce 7800GS 256MB GDDR3 AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Retail
  • Kingston ValueRAM 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) System Memory
  • ePOWER Cheetah EP-450XP-C1B ATX 450W Power Supply
  • TR2TT TR2-M12 80 x 80 x 25 mm Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink
  • Western Digital Caviar SE WD2500JBRTL 250GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Driv
  • Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card


newegg = $1140 including logitech keyboard, mouse