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« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2006, 09:30:44 PM »
Yeah it might upset him enough to force him to go play another round of golf.
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« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2006, 10:00:17 PM »
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Do you remember where you were when O. J. Simpson was aquitted of murder charges in the criminal case?


   hell no

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« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2006, 10:47:29 PM »
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I figure it this way- he's only a few years from the day his daughter stares him coldly in the eye and states " I know exactly what you did." Nothing is going to protect him from that moment.


That's assuming she thinks he is guilty.
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« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2006, 11:15:21 PM »
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You saw him trying to put on a glove that had shrunk due to having gotten wet. You also saw him putting on a glove that would have fit tightly if it had not shrunk and would have fit had he not already been wearing plastic very loose fitting gloves. He had absolutely no reason to really put it on and took the oportunity to play to the cameras and put one over on the jury.


I remember when he put it on and it didnt fit. Even he sounded surprised it didnt fit.

And I will agree the glove didnt fit.

But also. those were driving type gloves. which typically ar a snug fit anyway. I used to have a similar pair
Wouldnt take much shrinkage for them to no longer fit at all.

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Is it possible he also gained weight when he was in jail?
Thus also making his hands larger? Would weight gain even do that
I know A guy who served several years in jail and he certainly came out heavier then when he went in. Is why I ask

If so.
The combination of weight gain.  and the leather shrinking each by themselves. Assuming wirght gain could have that effect.
Would be more then enough for the glove to not fit
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« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2006, 02:30:19 AM »
Forget all that. Try putting a pair of driving gloves on over the top of rubber gloves. It was bull**** theatre and the defense should have called them on it.
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« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2006, 09:43:40 AM »
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I just used a tape measure to measure my palm before/after I spread my fingers. I can certainly make the base look wider by moving my thumb. About 3/8 inch wider. At the base of my fingers with my fingers spread as wide as I can, there is an increase of 3/8 inch again. The middle of my palm doesnt change at all. I think you have defective hands, better go see a doctor. :D
 


Wet leather gloves shrink considerably when they dry. Have you never worn a golf or other sport glove? Mine are always tight when I put them on but are easily stretched by "stretching" my hand.

Lotta controversy over whether the glove was planted or switched and the jury found him innocent so it's all meaningless anyhow. He will always be guilty of murder in my eyes and yes I do remember where I was when I watched the verdict read.

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« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2006, 12:28:05 PM »
Black tight fitting deer skin or goat skin leather gloves were a part of the uniform when I rode motorcycle at work. I still have one pair I use now and they shrink nicely after getting wet. They are also very hard to put on using a thin nylon (silk like) liner I have for cooler weather driving when I don't want a heavy winter glove. Like I said it was a bogus situation and I'm sure the defense team LOVED the oportunity to play a game and put it over on the jury. Keep in mind oj was an ACTOR, he's used to playing a role. He shoulda popped himself during the "chase".

Freaking waste of oxygen.
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« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2006, 03:59:31 PM »
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Wet leather gloves shrink considerably when they dry.


While I do agree that leather does shrink after getting wet. The forensics expert I saw on Discovery used the same brand/style of glove that was supposedly OJ's. It was his finding that this particular brand/style of glove would still have fit OJ's hand assuming it fit in the first place. Wish I could recall the name of that show.

I also agree that wearing a rubber glove would make it more difficult to pull on a leather glove. I also found Drediock's question of weight gain interesting and a possibility

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Lotta controversy over whether the glove was planted or switched and the jury found him innocent so it's all meaningless anyhow.


There is alot of controversy in the OJ case. How did the police find a knife that they tried to submit as the murder weapon AFTER going through the yard with a metal detector? How did they miss a blood spot on a WHITE vehicle multiple times? How did they miss a sock in the middle of the floor with blood on it multiple times, not to mention the blood stains on the front of the sock matched exactly to blood stains on the back of the sock. Where is the missing blood from the sample they took from OJ?

For these reasons and more, I refuse to consider OJ guilty. If new evidence arises and he is found guilty based on new evidence, then I will agree that he is guilty. Until then, only OJ knows for sure if he did in fact kill two people that night.
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« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2006, 04:04:37 PM »
And what has OJ done to find the "real" killers of his children's mother?

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« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2006, 04:11:17 PM »
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And what has OJ done to find the "real" killers of his children's mother?


That's a question you should ask OJ, not us. ;)
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« Reply #55 on: August 19, 2006, 05:49:54 PM »
How much you wanna bet that when OJ was "trying" to put on the glove he was putting 2 fingers in one finger hole as he was pulling on the glove?
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« Reply #56 on: August 19, 2006, 06:10:59 PM »
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How much you wanna bet that when OJ was "trying" to put on the glove he was putting 2 fingers in one finger hole as he was pulling on the glove?


Unless you can find a video, with close ups, that is just speculation. :)
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« Reply #57 on: August 20, 2006, 09:48:26 AM »
comeon chair... you gotta admit that the riots are allways pretty darn entertaining and.... senseless.  they are simply an excuse to loot and burn in every case.

I have no "hate".  I simply think that it is funny and idiotic.   I would have a strong dislike for any people who wanted to loot and burn in my neighborhood tho regardless of their color.   I would not allow it... my neighbor would not allow it.   It simply would not happen.

sooo... you wanna burn down a bunch of slums?   No skin off my butt.... I find it very entertaining.  

We never get any good riots around here.

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« Reply #58 on: August 20, 2006, 10:00:29 AM »
But that's not what you said.  You quite clearly made it racial by sarcastically talking about "all the blonde people" rioting.  I'm not tilting at windmills here, read your own message.

I think the riots were idiotic, stupid, and barbaric.  What I don't think is that they somehow indicate some sort of "global truth" about people who are black.
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« Reply #59 on: August 20, 2006, 10:14:24 AM »
who said anything about global truth?    Lots of poor white and mexican neighborhoods.   no riots tho.   draw your own conclussions.   To deny that these things happen in black neighborhoods and not in white is pretty stupid.

To not see this as either trajic or funny is to not be human.   To not notice that the "riots" are simply looting is naive.

I am saying that a portion of the colored population can be counted on to mask their looting with the pretense of riot.

I make no judgements as to why.   Lots of reasons I suppose.   None I would understand or care to.   katrina made no sense to me other than barbarians looking for opportunity to loot and pillage.

So yeah.... I am making fun of the barbarians.   sue me.

I am glad that you have found sweet baby jesus to guide you tho.

and comeon chair.... you don't think it is funny?   You don't think the thought of blond people rioting over a verdict is funny?

Heck... we do see drunk kids rioting at sports events and such but it is to break things not to loot.

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