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Boeing is being forced to cancel production of the C-17
« on: August 18, 2006, 10:59:27 PM »
heard this morninig on the news that if boeing doesnt recieve more fundings for the government they will be forced to cancel the production of the C-17 Cargo planes...supplies will be needed and now that may not happen cause of this...GOVERNMENT SUPPORT YOUR BOEING COMPANY NOW!

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Boeing Co. (NYSE:BA - news) said on Friday it would end production of its C-17 military cargo plane in mid-2009 if it did not receive any further orders from the U.S. armed forces.


Boeing said in a widely expected announcement that it told suppliers to stop work on four planes for which there is no firm funding, which it said was the first step in the long process of shutting down its supply chain.

Boeing, which has been lobbying the U.S. Congress to continue production of the plane, said the last C-17 would roll off its Long Beach, California production line in mid-2009 unless it won new        Department of Defense orders.

The Chicago-based company said shutting the production line could ultimately cost 5,500 Boeing jobs in California, Missouri, Georgia, and Arizona.

The aircraft, with a list price of about $200 million, is designed to carry large equipment and troops to hard-to-reach airfields. It has been in service since the 1990s.

It is one of Boeing's most significant projects, bringing in about $3 billion in annual revenue. Boeing's defense unit is on track to post about $30 billion in revenue this year.

The company said it is evaluating the financial impact of closing production and may incur costs which are not recoverable from the U.S. government.

Its stock fell $1.07 to $77.52 on the        New York Stock Exchange.

Executives said a letter was sent to all 700 supplier companies on the aircraft, directing them to stop work on planes that lack funding.

Boeing said it made the decision to begin winding down its supply chain now because some components on the aircraft must be ordered 34 months before assembly of the plane.

"No one questions its (the C-17's) operational value," said Ron Marcotte, general manager of Boeing's Global Mobility Systems unit, in a statement. "But we can't continue carrying the program without additional orders from the U.S. government."

Boeing has orders on its books to build 44 more of the aircraft. Twenty-six are being built for the U.S. Air Force, rounding off its order for 180 of the planes.

A further 18 are to be built mostly for international customers, including Australia, Canada,
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2006, 02:32:32 AM »
Boeing?

Government money?

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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2006, 02:39:07 AM »
typically Governments buy military transports furball, but Im sure you already knew that :rolleyes:
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2006, 03:35:54 AM »
is this the last MD product that Boeing was still making?

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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2006, 03:51:03 AM »
Yes, the 717 (MD90) closed down year before last (IIRC).  

When theC17 production ends it will be the last large airframe to be manufactured in California.
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Re: Boeing is being forced to cancel production of the C-17
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2006, 03:59:38 AM »
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Its stock fell $1.07 to $77.52 on the        New York Stock Exchange.
 


What kind of fall is it ? an up fall ?

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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2006, 04:15:43 AM »
The aircraft is obviously past it's time. A bigger, more efficient aircraft will take it's place.
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Re: Re: Boeing is being forced to cancel production of the C-17
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2006, 04:44:05 AM »
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What kind of fall is it ? an up fall ?


No it fell (went down) $1.07 from $78.59 to $77.52.

That's not an up fall even in France :p

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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2006, 07:19:41 AM »
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The aircraft is obviously past it's time. A bigger, more efficient aircraft will take it's place.


Huh? This design only went into production in the early 90's..rather new I would think.

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Re: Re: Re: Boeing is being forced to cancel production of the C-17
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2006, 07:51:18 AM »
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No it fell (went down) $1.07 from $78.59 to $77.52.

That's not an up fall even in France :p


I guess the 'from $78.59" was implicit ... but I didn't thought of adding it.

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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2006, 08:39:25 AM »
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Boeing?

Government money?

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Shuddup Furball. :p

He means "contracts" ;)  The government gets something in return for tax dollars other than a financial bail out or subsidies for creating commercial aircraft (hello airbus!)

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Re: Boeing is being forced to cancel production of the C-17
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2006, 09:21:46 AM »
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heard this morninig on the news that if boeing doesnt recieve more fundings for the government they will be forced to cancel the production of the C-17 Cargo planes...supplies will be needed and now that may not happen cause of this...GOVERNMENT SUPPORT YOUR BOEING COMPANY NOW!



You want the US government to buy aircraft it doesn't want to keep the production line going?  There's two words for that...welfare, or communism.

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Re: Re: Boeing is being forced to cancel production of the C-17
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2006, 10:03:41 AM »
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You want the US government to buy aircraft it doesn't want to keep the production line going?  There's two words for that...welfare, or communism.


I was kind of wondering too, if the government feels they have enough, why would a taxpayer want them to order (and pay for with our taxes) a bunch more??

I would prefer they limit spending, not spend billions for unneeded aircraft.
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Re: Re: Re: Boeing is being forced to cancel production of the C-17
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2006, 10:17:33 AM »
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I was kind of wondering too, if the government feels they have enough, why would a taxpayer want them to order (and pay for with our taxes) a bunch more??

I would prefer they limit spending, not spend billions for unneeded aircraft.



Exactly.  Canada went through this under the Liberal Party.  Chretien made the military buy a crapload of Bombardier Challenger small business jets out of thier meager budget.  The military didn't want them but Chretien wanted to give pork to Bombardier so there you go.  An airforce that had next to know heavy lift capability but a crapload of small passenger jets to fly around Members of Parliment.  Totally ****ed thinking.

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Boeing is being forced to cancel production of the C-17
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2006, 10:51:01 AM »
Won't somebody please think of the military industrial complex!