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Offline lukster

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« on: August 20, 2006, 10:17:55 AM »
Didn't want to hijack Nash's thread about boredom so I'm adding this to a new thread. At least it's fun to speculate what this would mean to all of us before/if it's disproven. What impact do you think this would have on the world? We'll still need oil in current quantities at least for a while. If these guys have discovered what they claim will the oil industry collapse overnight?

http://www.steorn.net/frontpage/default.aspx
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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2006, 10:23:17 AM »
Would take decades to get rid of oil as a source of energy no matter what. Unless you found something that can be used in a combustion engine without any sort of modification.
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2006, 10:25:36 AM »
I did not read very far into it, but this line made me stop...

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Early into this project the company developed certain generator configurations that appeared to be over 100% efficient.


Apparently they've rewritten the laws of thermodynamics and invented the perpetual motion machine. Makes them sound like total charlatans to me. But I will say I registered and hope they prove me wrong.
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Offline rabbidrabbit

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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2006, 10:32:46 AM »
reads like a scam to me...
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Offline lukster

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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2006, 10:37:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Edbert1
I did not read very far into it, but this line made me stop...



Apparently they've rewritten the laws of thermodynamics and invented the perpetual motion machine. Makes them sound like total charlatans to me. But I will say I registered and hope they prove me wrong.


Like most I remain very skeptical, still, even the slightest possibilty that these guys may have stumbled upon something so earth changing is an exciting prospect. Shouldn't take more than a few weeks for them to be discredited if they're wrong I think.
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Offline lukster

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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2006, 10:37:53 AM »
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
reads like a scam to me...


If they were selling something or stood to gain from the attention I wouldn't have given them a second glance.



Someone suggested on their forums that this is nothing but an effort to accumulate email addresses to be sold to spammers. I have to admit I hadn't considered that and it does seem a likely possibility. Oh well, was fun to think about for a bit. That's what I get for reading news sources on Googles "news" page.

Here's their patent application at the US Patent Office site. If this is a scam to collect email addresses it's pretty elaborate and expensive.

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220060066428%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20060066428&RS=DN/20060066428

One last thing, if they ever ask for money, run away, fast. ;)
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Offline Elfie

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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2006, 02:33:07 PM »
They give almost no information so it's kinda hard to have a discussion on *what* they have discovered. Assuming this isnt some elaborate scam.
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2006, 02:42:48 PM »
Free energy?
maybe ask the croatian Nicola Tesla?
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Offline Angus

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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2006, 03:23:44 PM »
Smells like a hoax if you ask me.
Let's wait and see....
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2006, 03:33:08 PM »
Does this remind anyone else of the claims of revolution and secrecy that intially surrounded the Segway?
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Offline ASTAC

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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2006, 03:48:28 PM »
JUst skiming throught the patent application...sounds like the description of an electric motor, nothing else.
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2006, 03:59:07 PM »
i believed it until i saw that the company is based in ireland.
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Offline Charge

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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2006, 04:14:50 PM »
There have been such claims before.

E.g. by Viktor Schauberger.

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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2006, 04:23:56 PM »
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JUst skiming throught the patent application...sounds like the description of an electric motor, nothing else.


The difference between an electtric motor and what they claim to have produced is that the rotor in an electric motor changes it's magnetic polarity through the apllication of electrical current while their device does so through the implementation of magnetic shields moved into position with low energy consumption. It sounds like so many other perpetual motion machines.

However they spent $100,000USD on the full page ad in "The Economist" which seems like a lot to spend without doing some preliminary testing on your own.
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2006, 05:17:46 PM »
It stinks like a scam. All hat and no cattle.
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