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Offline BugsBunny

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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2006, 03:14:04 PM »
109 will win (given equal pilots)

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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2006, 04:45:00 PM »
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!






<---- Reserves a HMk1 spot! :D


Can I be your wingman schatzi? ;)

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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2006, 04:47:10 PM »
I'm not so sure, bugs... It might be that the 109E pilots seem to know what they're doing more often. That might skew the results. If you look at the comparison charts, the spit1 outruns the 109, outclimbs it in several alt bands, out turns it, and outguns it (while the 20mm is powerful, the ballistics is bad, and once it's gone the 109E is nearly defenesless, while the spit1 has a steady punch throughout its ammo depletion).

The stats say the spit1 would win.


Comment on the spitII: The spitII was almost identical to the Ia, but had 20mm tested in positions in the wings. That's how I understood it. It was a stop-gap plane, not many made, and the SpitV was the real successor to the Ia

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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2006, 05:25:11 PM »
Spi II from memory had an upgraded radio (big jump in rl), maybe better armour, and another engine with better high alt performance.
There was I belive, a cannon equipped squadron operating from Rochford (Hizookaz either 2 or 4, nor sure in 1940, hehehe) as well as 1 or 2 Hurricanes testing the cannons (1 Hurry scoring kills I belive and no jams), but the cannons had not yet the favour to be installed.
While our 109 might be an underdog (well, I NEVER SAW GOOD DATA ON THE EMIL), our SpitI is probably not the ultimate RL one from the BoB either. (There I have data), so theyr'e close as they should be and the pilot has a lot to say.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2006, 02:39:06 AM »
Reynolds are you sure you want to step into the BofB scenario with a 109.

My squad will defend our homeland with upmost ferocity.

As for the spit-1 vs 109 E     It is a close match up but a spit 1 in the right hands  is more of match than a 109 in the right hands.

The wingman tactics take WAY more importance in the upcoming event.  This will suit 109 flyers  because they like to go up and down :)


However if it gets dragged into a swirling furball I know what plane i'd rather be in....


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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2006, 03:24:07 AM »
Bruv. I want an 88. The 303rd (even though we are HISTORICALLY american) will bomb your airfields until there isnt any DIRT for you to land on!!!! ZEIG HEIL!!!!







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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2006, 03:49:35 AM »
Try bombing   with  A bullet in your head and spilt blood all over your cockpit !

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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2006, 03:52:09 AM »
Reynolds, Furbie flies for the RAF in scenarios.
Good luck :D
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2006, 12:16:23 PM »
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Reynolds, Furbie flies for the RAF in scenarios.
Good luck :D


BUt he DOESNT fly a TBM in THIS one!!!

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« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2006, 12:16:57 PM »
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Try bombing   with  A bullet in your head and spilt blood all over your cockpit !

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I have. Its a biatch. I missed all my targets :(

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« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2006, 04:20:32 AM »
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BUt he DOESNT fly a TBM in THIS one!!!


No, it's going to be something faster and more agile :D
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2006, 04:43:34 AM »
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No, it's going to be something faster and more agile :D


Im not worried about fast, If I lose to a spit I can always say "Spit Dweeb", But my image cannot afford another TBM death! lol. Anyway, on the subject of the Emil, I suck at it. It feels like paper mache. It falls apart way too easy. Anyone have any suggestions as to how to fly the Emil? (Yeah I fly 109s only, but that doesnt mean I CAN fly them!)

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« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2006, 06:33:29 AM »
Don't get hit and it won't fall apart :)

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« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2006, 09:41:54 AM »
Emil is a nice little plane. Just don't "learn" on it. Learn on the G14. Then go to the G2, then the F4, then MAYBE try the G6 (to get you ready for under-performing planes) *THEN* move on to the E4.

In the first week after the update, with all the new spitties I took an Emil into a furball and got 2 spit16s and a spit8 all in a row. I made it out alive with 20 rounds 20mm left!

You just have to be careful when flying it. You get overwhelmed and you die. Need to keep your escape in sight at all times, or have wingmen nearby.

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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2006, 11:35:26 AM »
Emil is like slow rolling slow 109F with double firepower.
I actually hate it and much rather prefer teh HURRY2 :D
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)