Israeli War Crimes?

[Brenjen]

Originally posted by -dead-
Israel negotiates with terrorists. They funded Hamas, they negotiate and swap prisoners with Hizbollah.
The US negotiates with terrorists, they even train and fund them. That's what Iran-contra was about: negotiating with one set of terrorists and training and funding another set.
The UK negotiates with terrorists: there were prisoner swaps in the 70s and 80s and the IRA are now a political party.

Sooner or later everyone negotiates with terrorists. That's why there are terrorists: it's a dirty little secret, and certainly not PC in world according to TWOT, but terrorism works.

 I never siad the world didn't, I said you can't. My point was clear. Kill all of the radical muslims & anyone else who stands with them. This world has come to the brink of either get mad & kill, or lie down & lick your nuts & die. That's how the muslims see it, get mad & kill or die trying, it's time we did too, I'm just ahead of the pack apparently.

 Edit: Caligula, I feel for your friend. Tell him if there is a next time, shade the kid. It's not the kids fault so he'll be saved if there is an afterlife, & it's not your friends fault because he didn't carry the kid into battle or go looking for kids to kill. Smoke the kid & the terrorist & have drink when he gets home knowing he did what had to be done.

[Casca]

Originally posted by -dead-
Rupert Murdoch's New York Times, the Jerusalem Post,  and a staff sergeant in a reserve IDF Paratroopers brigade fielding pro-sraeli stories? Say it isn't so!

Some corroborating evidence from less partisan sources would be nice.

Rupert Murdoch owns the New York Post, not the New York Times.  The New York Times is published by Arthur "Pinch" Sulzberger, a descendent of the founder.

Heres a snip on Pinch from Wiki:

In "The Trust," authors Susan Tifft and Alex S. Jones tell of a confrontation over the war that took place between its young publisher to be, Arthur Sulzberger Jr., and his father, Arthur "Punch" Sulzberger. The father had rushed up to Boston after his son, then a student, had gotten arrested in an antiwar demonstration. The authors recount how the two had dinner at Locke-Ober and then, "slightly tipsy," took a stroll around Boston Common. There, say Ms. Tifft and Mr. Jones, Punch asked his son this question: "If a young American soldier comes upon a North Vietnamese soldier, which do you want to see get shot?" "I would want to see the American get shot," the young publisher-to-be replied defiantly, according to Ms. Tifft and Mr. Jones. "It's the other guy's country; we shouldn't be there," the younger Mr. Sulzberger had said by way of explanation.

End snip

Does this then meet your standard for corroboration from "less partisan" sources?

[bozon]

here are a few pictures that have been circulating recently. They were taken by soldiers in Lebanon in houses used by Hizballa.
For the sake of honesty, some of these pictures appear on the IDF spokesman site.

Anti tank missiles:


Tow missiles in the shower room:

[bozon]

guns and ammunition:

[bozon]

122mm Katiusha portable launcher outside the house:




And the remote operation box for the launcher inside the house:

[bozon]

here are two unrelated bonus pics that a friend of mine took. His house in Haifa turned out to be a rocket magnet, though lucky for him it was not hit. This is a picture of a lamp post (behind the lower station of the Carmel cable car) showing the penetration power of the metal balls inside the 220mm Syrian rockets. The iron is 5mm thick.

Front side:



Back side:

[Suave]

Al-Manar TV station didn't get destroyed because it was under a hospital or something. Unless it was in Syria.

Hezbollah can't be accused of war crimes because they are a criminal organization.

The laws of war apply to national forces and militaries.

[Elfie]

I believe the laws of war apply to all. They just arent very enforceable against groups like Hezbollah.

[Pongo]

2001,
Wonder who gave them TOWs made in 2001.

[Brenjen]

Originally posted by Elfie
I believe the laws of war apply to all. They just arent very enforceable against groups like Hezbollah.

 The "laws" of war only apply to those nations who signed the Geneva Convention or are beaten & occupied by a nation who wishes to enforce whatever laws it sees fit to enforce. (There are other international "laws" but they really are nothing more than guidelines)

 To the victor goes the spoils...& the right to decide the fate of the loser. You can do whatever you want if you're strong enough & no one is able to stop you.

 Take post WWII Japan as an example, not a signatory of the convention & therefore not bound by it's rules, but, the U.S.A. won & was quite pissed off at Japan & seeing as how we were the cockO'thewalk they could hang or shoot anyone they wanted, the war crimes trials were for show. The guys they wanted dead - died.

 The idea of international law is just that, an idea. Until there is one world govt. (a very bad idea itself) or an organization set up that has troops from every country on earth in equal amounts regardless of the size of the country with the authority to go into any country on earth with the use of force  without regard to which country they are going into (another bad idea), there will be no enforceable international law.

[Brenjen]

Originally posted by Pongo
2001,
Wonder who gave them TOWs made in 2001.

 Could be from any number of sources from black market to foreign govts. like Venezuela who were armed with U.S. equipment until the election of a radical. Heck, Iran has F-14 Tomcats & may still have some pheonix missiles...wouldn't it be ironic to see a hez F-14 shooting down an Israeli F-15?

 It's a mad-mad-mad world.