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Offline Shamus

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« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2006, 01:56:54 PM »
I don't see why the parents are upset and want an investigation, they started the ball rolling, sh&t happens.

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« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2006, 02:12:44 PM »
I guess I am still missing the point....

No kid has ever been scared away from commiting crimes or getting straightened out by a little jail time?    they all learn how to be master criminals from the mensa candidate criminals they meet and hang around with for the month or so they are in?

nelson says they are not normally in danger so...  what's the big deal?

One kid died so now the whole idea is dumb?   Wouldn't that mean that allowing him to join a frat would be like.... 100 times more irresponsible?

Have you guys been to jail?   the county jails are not pleasant.  I would say that most middle class kids would get a wake up call from spending 30 days or so in county.   They would probly be in less danger than their normal on the street skateboarding or whatever.

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« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2006, 02:18:12 PM »
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I don't see why the parents are upset and want an investigation, they started the ball rolling, sh&t happens.

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Their son was killed. I don't thnk they expected the death penalty for stealing their car.
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« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2006, 02:59:39 PM »
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Right now the the parents are in the angry phase, won't be long til they hit the guilt phase. [/B]


You mean the sue phase, this is the USA.
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Parents charge son for borrowing car, killed in jail
« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2006, 03:13:29 PM »
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I guess I am still missing the point....

No kid has ever been scared away from commiting crimes or getting straightened out by a little jail time?    they all learn how to be master criminals from the mensa candidate criminals they meet and hang around with for the month or so they are in?

nelson says they are not normally in danger so...  what's the big deal?

One kid died so now the whole idea is dumb?   Wouldn't that mean that allowing him to join a frat would be like.... 100 times more irresponsible?

Have you guys been to jail?   the county jails are not pleasant.  I would say that most middle class kids would get a wake up call from spending 30 days or so in county.   They would probly be in less danger than their normal on the street skateboarding or whatever.

lazs


Yeah, and when they complain of how hard their life is, we'll drop them off in the middle east for a few days.
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« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2006, 03:51:10 PM »
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Their son was killed. I don't thnk they expected the death penalty for stealing their car.


I'm sure they didn't, but they had total control of the situation and chose to give it up, I feel sorry for the kid not the parents, maybee they learned something from this.

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« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2006, 03:57:24 PM »
Unless you think that all criminals deserve to die as soon as they enter custody, a lawsuit seems absolutely justified in this case.  

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« Reply #37 on: August 28, 2006, 04:09:53 PM »
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I'm sure they didn't, but they had total control of the situation and chose to give it up, I feel sorry for the kid not the parents, maybee they learned something from this.

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I have to disagree. If they had control he would have been punished, possibly forestalling more serious criminal activity, and turned loose perhaps a bit wiser.

It was not their fault that he was murdered. It was the governments fault as those in charge are responsible for the safety of their prisoners.
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« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2006, 04:13:13 PM »
Shame really.. Parent could have asked the judge to give him about a billion hours of community service.
I bet the judge would have been more than willing.


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« Reply #39 on: August 28, 2006, 04:16:31 PM »
he borrowed his moms car.  im sure most of you did stupid **** to your parents when you were that age or younger and got away with it.  some of you are making out that it is a heinous crime and he deserved it.

i dont feel that he needed a jail sentence, criminal record or anything.  it was a gross over reaction and now they will have to live with the guilt.
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« Reply #40 on: August 28, 2006, 04:19:35 PM »
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Shame really.. Parent could have asked the judge to give him about a billion hours of community service.
I bet the judge would have been more than willing.


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I don't think that would have happened without them filing charges for theft. Once that happens the parents may not get to decide where he goes before bail is posted.

I'm sure we aren't getting the whole story. This kid may have been completely out of control and the parents felt they had no other choice. Just because he didn't have a police record does not mean he wasn't giving his parents hell.

My youngest likes to party a lot. If he winds up in jail as a result of a dwi he's gonna spend some time there. I damn sure expect his life to be safe there.
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« Reply #41 on: August 28, 2006, 06:03:09 PM »
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This kid may have been completely out of control and the parents felt they had no other choice. Just because he didn't have a police record does not mean he wasn't giving his parents hell.
 


I'm doubt a jail is the best possible enviroment - Lots of bad influence and not the kind of friends you'd like your kid to have. After jail, the kid would have a permanent criminal record, which can be a pain in the arse in the future. It's a really good way to totally ruin the future of a kid.
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« Reply #42 on: August 28, 2006, 06:50:31 PM »
Offenses as a minor arent usually part of your permanent record iirc.
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« Reply #43 on: August 28, 2006, 06:55:34 PM »
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I'm doubt a jail is the best possible enviroment - Lots of bad influence and not the kind of friends you'd like your kid to have. After jail, the kid would have a permanent criminal record, which can be a pain in the arse in the future. It's a really good way to totally ruin the future of a kid.


My youngest son is 23. He's old enough to learn from a few days in jail. I wouldn't send a 17 year old to jail unless I believed he was headed for bigger trouble.
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« Reply #44 on: August 28, 2006, 06:59:14 PM »
Ok, just read the article. There is a picture of a van. If that is the same type of vehicle used to transport this kid (or something similar), how did the driver NOT know something was going on behind him?

Reports we have atm say the kid was beaten and strangled to death but later revived and put on life support.

How does the driver NOT know something of that nature is going on in a vehicle that small?
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