A Scar on the National Mall

[Nash]

Eight years? *Eight* years??

A freakin' 40 story building repleat with several thousand planes of glass, electricity, plumbing, restaurant, gym, movie theater, etc. etc. goes up in *one*.

Were talking about 56 identical pillars, two identical arches and a bunch of gold stars.

Wow....

[SeaWulfe]

 

Originally posted by Nash:
Eight years? *Eight* years??

A freakin' 40 story building repleat with several thousand planes of glass, electricity, plumbing, restaurant, gym, movie theater, etc. etc. goes up in *one*.

Were talking about 56 identical pillars, two identical arches and a bunch of gold stars.

Wow....

Yes, but's it's being constructed in *DC*!!

It taken them two years to reconstruct/reroute the southeast/southwest freeway and they still aren't done. It just required redirected one lane and adding another one... the two lanes on either side they are adding aren't done, but the onramp to 395 is and there's several more things they need to complete.

Remember, in DC everything takes more than twice as long as it should to complete.

Why? Well... it's the nation's capitol. :-)
-SW

[Degas]

Please accept my apologies for the "Shame on you" horsesh*t, Sandman.  No excuses, but this is in the way of an explanation:

My Dad and two of my uncles passed away in the last year.  All WWII veterans who quietly gave thousands of dollars to the WWII Memorial Fund.  In each case, our family have asked that donations to the Fund be offered in lieu of flowers delivered to the funeral homes.

This gets a little personal with me.  I should know better than to post a knee-jerk (heavy on the jerk) reaction like the one above.

[AKDejaVu]

Hmmmm... It doesn't look too intrusive so I feel that "scar" may be a bit extreme.

As for the memorial itself... it seems the gesture is more important than many other things.  People could sit an quibble about what was apropriate all day long... and have for some 55 years now... and nothing gets done.  Now, as the people who participated in that war are begginning to die off... the consideration is made.

Dunno... it just seems kinda petty to get upset about this.

AKDejaVu

[Eagler]

looks like the best use of taxpayer money in the last 8 years to me

<S> to all who are working to make this long over due Memorial a reality

Eagler

[Creamo]

That is layed out kinda poorly, and it did rememind me of the commisioners trophy, when someone mentioned it.

blah...

 

The pilot of the "Memphis Belle" was on CSPAN for like a hour yesterday, and he was a bit upset that it is outside deteriorating and full of birds and rust.

Keeping those old warbirds in good shape and touring the country is where I vote my tax dollars first, WHILE the redesign that goofy looking memorial.

Doen't seem to interfere with anything though, being that flat, pointless bowl that it is.

[JimBear]

I saw the Belle in the mid 70s and she was out in an open field (park) and looked the worse for wear. But it is now located at Mud River Airfield in Memphis and seems well taken care of. Hope Col. Morgan was just having a memory lapse.

 

[NHFoxtro]

I think the memorial looks very nice, and would add sort of a finishing touch to the reflecting pool. Lets just hope they get it up there in less than 2 years, instead of 8.Thats rediculous and just not fair to the remaining survivors of the war.

[Sandman_SBM]

 

Originally posted by Degas:
Please accept my apologies for the "Shame on you" horsesh*t, Sandman.

Accepted. <S>

[Midnight]

 

Originally posted by Sandman_SBM:
I'm all for a WW2 Memorial, but this... this is an eyesore.

Sandman... SCREW YOU!

Without the Men and Women who gave everything they had during WWII you would not have that mall in D.C. anyway. Where do you come off calling this an eyesore?

Spare the Patriotism? Man, you must be a communist. Offically, I have no use for you or people like you. The WWII memorial should be there. It should be looked at as a center piece for all that is American.

That memorial should be a symbol for all to see that this country was able to pull together and sacrifice in order to fight a war on TWO fronts against very deterimed enemies. Anyone who thinks the memorial should be smaller or put somewhere else is disrespecting the vets and putting their lousy open grassy location in front of the greatest tribute to a wonderful generation.

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Midnight CO


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[Sandman_SBM]

         

Originally posted by Midnight:
Sandman... SCREW YOU!

Without the Men and Women who gave everything they had during WWII you would not have that mall in D.C. anyway. Where do you come off calling this an eyesore?

Spare the Patriotism? Man, you must be a communist. Offically, I have no use for you or people like you. The WWII memorial should be there. It should be looked at as a center piece for all that is American.

That memorial should be a symbol for all to see that this country was able to pull together and sacrifice in order to fight a war on TWO fronts against very deterimed enemies. Anyone who thinks the memorial should be smaller or put somewhere else is disrespecting the vets and putting their lousy open grassy location in front of the greatest tribute to a wonderful generation.

Opinions are like amazinhunks. Everyone has one. Some of 'em stink...

Screw YOU! I did my time in the service, ten years in fact and I still work for the U.S. Navy right here in frigging D.C. I am a veteran. I have as much right to my opinion as anyone else in this country. Communist? Right... sure... ya... you go on... right-wing conservative nutbags who think it's unpatriotic if you don't conform or if you question authority.

FWIW, you probably missed this quote from me so I'll refresh:

       

...ya know... after looking into the WWII Memorial Site, I take everything back... I'm wrong... the earlier "artist depictions" presented by the media looked horrid. These don't look too bad. I'll shut up now... Forget I said anything... Gotta stop letting misinformation get me spooled...

But I digress...

Gawdamnit... Part of being AMERICAN is to embrace the differences in people and their opinions. To question my patriotism simply because I don't necessarily agree with you is reprehensible. It's not UNAMERICAN nor is it disrespectful of WWII veterans to dislike the location or style of the WWII Memorial.

The National Mall does not belong to the Republican Party nor does it belong solely to the veterans (or anyone else). It belongs to US, regardless of race, color, religion or creed.

[This message has been edited by Sandman_SBM (edited 05-29-2001).]

[AcId]

 

Originally posted by Sandman_SBM:
Opinions are like amazinhunks. Everyone has one. Some of 'em stink...

belly buttons too ;P    

[Corwin]

You have to admit that there is a ceratin Albert Speer quality to the design...

[Midnight]

Sandman... Sorry that I did not read your later comments on this topic.

I certainly appreciate that you are ex-military and served this country.

As for the disagrement, I don't expect everyone to see it my way or they are wrong, altough my post my seem that way. However in this case, I am very firmly set in my belief that the mall is the perfect place for the memorial.

I do not frequent D.C. and have not been there in years. I don't know what kind of activities go on in the mall on a daily basis. I also don't think that there are any activites that could be more important than the respect that should be shown to the veterans of WWII.

The case for finding another site carries it's own answer. Where ever that "Other site" is, people can bring their activities there. As I said, the memorial should be a center piece, not a side item.

That's all...

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Wing up, Get kills, Be happy!

Midnight CO
 

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[This message has been edited by Midnight (edited 05-30-2001).]

[GRUNHERZ]

I like it. It looks dignified and fits the scale and importance of the war. Plus it sure is no artsy black hole in the ground, although that certainly seems to work and is now liked for the Vietnam memorial.