Author Topic: Pistol vs. Revolver? (Read 2413 times)

Chairboy · « **Reply #15 on:** September 01, 2006, 12:54:16 PM »

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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
I pack a portable nuke where ever I go. That's enough protection for anything.

Is it mounted in a motorcycle sidecar and triggered by an EKG that would set it off if you died?

Sounds like Dmitri Ravinov, the baddest *&#$(@*$ in the world.

Don't mess with Raven.

Dago · « **Reply #16 on:** September 01, 2006, 12:59:49 PM »

We have had this discussion before.

Some prefer autos, some prefer revolvers. It is a more a personal preference based on emotion than a comparison based on fact.

Both revolvers and autos jam. Revolvers have more moving parts. Autos dependability is more tied to magazine quality than anything else.

Both can be accurate or inaccurate but basically accuracy depends more on the shooters ability than the weapon.

Semi-autos basically are the pistol of choice of virtually all competitive handgun shooters, so you cannot convince me they are less accurate.

Semi-autos hold more ammo and are quicker to reload.

Companies are producing less and less revolvers, and Colt has stopped producing them altogether. Semi-auto models are growing in number of those being produced.

I prefer autos. For everything I own a pistol for.

Yeager · « **Reply #17 on:** September 01, 2006, 01:13:12 PM »

How do revolvers "jam" ?

Im sure they "break" and such ........but jam?

x0847Marine · « **Reply #18 on:** September 01, 2006, 01:39:02 PM »

One of these should do. S&W .669 .9mm, 12+1

Edit: as someone PM'd me, yes, this is a "pre-ban" assault weapon under Kalifornia law... I'm legally allowed to posses it, but I can't get the 12 round clips (in Ca) any more, which is a real bummer since I lost 3 of the 5 I had during the LA riots. I tried ordering from out of state, to no avail.

I believe it's illegal for me to sell to anyone in Kalifornia as well thanks to that commie liberal, who has a CCW, Barbra Boxhead. Funny thing is, carrying this assault weapon carries a lessor charge in Ca (12031/25PC) than a 3" double edged knife, or a baton (12020PC).

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 01, 2006, 01:47:15 PM »

Revolvers are for the senile, infirm, and those who like to dress up in cowboy boots and hats and such. Real men have automatics, shiny automatics with lots of levers.

Terror · « **Reply #20 on:** September 01, 2006, 02:00:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Dago

Both revolvers and autos jam. Revolvers have more moving parts. Autos dependability is more tied to magazine quality than anything else.

Revolvers have more moving parts? I guess I would have to disagree with that statement. Semi-auto's have to rely on alot more moving parts and springs than revolvers. I would have to say the revolvers are more reliable from a pure shot to shot perspective.

Semi-Auto's have to rely on many, many factors that a revolver does not to continue operating: Ammo quality, unobstructed slide area, unobstructed ejection port, slide timing, slide speeds, slide weights, mag spring pressures. Some semi-auto's are even prone to stop when being "limp wristed". And these are just the ones that come to mind....

Now myself, I prefer semi-autos over revolvers. The higher rate of fire due to less need for reloading is a major plus. I have never liked the "splash" from the gap between the barrel and cylinder. I have also seen where people have a hard time reloading under stress because of the higher need of "fine muscle control" while working a reload on a revolver over reloading a semi-auto.

If the HIGHEST reliability possible is the major point on choosing a handgun, then a revolver is the choice. But if round count, and rate of fire are also major points, then a semi-auto fits the bill.

Accuracy is 99% the shooter. (At the ranges handguns are normally shot at.) Accuracy is not a factor in choosing between a revolver or semi-auto.

Terror

lazs2 · « **Reply #21 on:** September 01, 2006, 02:03:13 PM »

wow... finland has the tech to build a nuke? I didn't think they were smart enough.

Revolver or auto.... it really is a matter of personal preferece and need. There are several calibers that are suited only to revolvers.

The most deadly and smallest, lightest carry gun is a revolver the 340 PD in .357 ... the most powerful hundguns and the only handguns useful for any real hunting are.... revolvers.

The most accurate handguns are still..... revolvers especialy at long distance.... there are no metalic silouette semi autos for instance.

A "jam" is much more likely with a semi auto. It is dependent on too many things... one..... it needs reliable ammo. a bad round makes it inoperable for a short time all the way to forever. two...it is dependant on the condition of it's magazine and mag spring. Three.... mechanical linkage... Four... it needs to have enough room around the slide for the slide to operate freely throughout it's full range of motion with no interferance...

And four... they dirty little secret most won't tell you about semi autos.....

It is sensitive to how you are holding it... a poor grip can cause a jam.

With revolvers.... a bad primer will mean that you skip to the next round as easily as pulling the trigger through again.... mechanical failure is as with a semi auto... some revolvers (not all) have exposed hammers that need to be free from interferance but their travel is much less than the slide of an auto.

either a revolver or an auto is out of action if a squib load goes partway down the barrel....

But last but not least.... reloading is much eaisier for the revolver than the auto.. the brass does not get lost and is generaly better quality... allowing more reloads per case life. You don't lose or litter up the landscape with revolvers.

With a revolver you also have the option of loading types of ammo that will not funtion in an autoloader.... very blut rounds or huge hollowpoints.

The big advantage to semi autos is that if you are defending against 12 or so opponents who are lousy shots or..... one and you are a lousy shot.... you won't have to reload as much.

Might be better off just learning to handle handguns.

lazs

Neubob · « **Reply #22 on:** September 01, 2006, 02:06:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
Is it mounted in a motorcycle sidecar and triggered by an EKG that would set it off if you died?

Sounds like Dmitri Ravinov, the baddest *&#$(@*$ in the world.

Don't mess with Raven.

Enough Snowcrashing!!!!

Make a reference to Zodiac and you'll make my day

lazs2 · « **Reply #23 on:** September 01, 2006, 02:07:22 PM »

and xmarine... I know their are exception but I would never want a semi auto that was built by Smith and Wesson or any revolver not a single action designed after 1873 by Colt.

There is a reason colt is getting out of making revolvers.. they haven't made a good one since the 1873..... the python was nice but..... finicky.

lazs

Neubob · « **Reply #24 on:** September 01, 2006, 02:15:06 PM »

Seems like while you guys were busy bickering over this issue, this man made his choice.

.60 Nitro Pistol

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #25 on:** September 01, 2006, 02:51:17 PM »

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Revolvers are for the senile, infirm, and those who like to dress up in cowboy boots and hats and such. Real men have automatics, shiny automatics with lots of levers.

So people who dress up in cowboy hats and boots arent real men? Tell you what, while you work the action on your fancy-schmancy gun, we'll see the size of the exit hole one of my 250 grain .45's will leave coming out your back. My single action '58 Remington will have 3 holes in you a bird could fly through before you get the first round in the chamber.

REAL men arent afraid to shoot Warthog loads. Big caliber handguns with max loads of powder and heavy bullets. Nothing wrong with semi-autos, 'cept alot of folks tend to like em in those little wimpy calibers. Guess if you spend alot of time conversin with your feminine side, thats ok for you.

101ABN · « **Reply #26 on:** September 01, 2006, 02:51:25 PM »

i dont care for revolvers all that much.. i can picture myself firing a revolver and the frame breaking in my hand.. never heard of that happening before but it just gives me the willies.

i have a M1911A2 .45 springfield... love it. another great pistol is the springfield XD. gonna get the .40 ported barrel this fall.. ive heard nothing but great things about the XDs.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #27 on:** September 01, 2006, 02:53:07 PM »

You'll like the XD. It is a sweet pistol.

Terror · « **Reply #28 on:** September 01, 2006, 02:58:43 PM »

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Originally posted by 101ABN
i dont care for revolvers all that much.. i can picture myself firing a revolver and the frame breaking in my hand.. never heard of that happening before but it just gives me the willies.

i have a M1911A2 .45 springfield... love it. another great pistol is the springfield XD. gonna get the .40 ported barrel this fall.. ive heard nothing but great things about the XDs.

Welp, I own a Springfield XD Compact and I am not very fond of it. I find the trigger spongy and hard to get the same action out of shot to shot. The best thing I can say about it is it ergonamically feels comfortable in the hands, otherwise it's a Glock wannabe that falls way short. I will probably be trading it for a Glock27 or Glock36.

Terror

Chairboy · « **Reply #29 on:** September 01, 2006, 03:07:57 PM »

BTW, I mentioned in another thread that I got my wife the Walther P22 for her birthday. She absolutely loves it.