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[Schutt]

Hi Guys,

I am giving up with my X45 saitek, it is not smooth enough .

I looked at the X52 but it seems to be fragile and not durable. So i am considering CH fGear, but here i have a question (or two).

Is the handle ok for medium hands? I heard they are only for big hands, and since i didnt see any shop in hannover that sells it i have to buy without trying.

What is the diffrence between the combatstick pro and the F16 fighterstick? Is it  only the number of hat switches, or is there any other diffrence as well?

Anyone know where to buy CH gear and pro pedals in germany? I  only found 3 sources and all 3 of them are sold out.

ciao schutt

[Bruv119]

I couldnt see much difference between the combat stick and the fighter stick  except price so bought the combat one....

Only problem is they arent twist rudders so you ideally need pedals.

Looks well built and the hand size isnt much of a problem.  Still using my old stick until i get the pedals  

Bruv
~S~

[Rolex]

Fighterstick has 4-way hats instead of pushbuttons on two combatstick button locations. That's about it.

Don't worry about the reach, you'll get used to it and the overall performance is worth it. In reality, the sticks they are modeled on should be between your legs and low, not sitting on a destop. That is the problem.

You understand that they are 2-axis only? CH rudder pedals and throttle will round out a great setup that you'll enjoy for years. Why do you have to buy them in Germany? You can check other European distributors on the ch products website...

[SNO]

I had problems with reaching the hatswitch on my fighterstick pro sitting on the desktop, solution was if you might be considering getting the pro throttle also, put the views on the throttle hatswitch. Works good for me anyways.

[Auger]

Schutt, I've been using CH sticks for years with medium size hands (3 1/8" length of middle finger, 7 1/4" tip of middle finger to wrist).  The 8-way hat on the Fighterstick is a bit of a stretch for my thumb, which is why is does things like gear, tail hook, fuel tanks, etc.  The 8-way on the ProThrottle is perffectly positioned for views.  And if you're used to using the pseudo-rudder on the X45, you'll want pedals.

You wrote that your X45  wasn't smooth enough.  Is it spiking, or just too touchy?  If you like the stick, maybe you could just replace the pots and save a bunch of money.

[Schatzi]

Originally posted by Auger

You wrote that your X45  wasn't smooth enough.  Is it spiking, or just too touchy?  If you like the stick, maybe you could just replace the pots and save a bunch of money.

The problem with the X45 is that the springs are really stiff and the movement of plastic on plastic sometimes "sticks" a bit. Makes very fine inputs difficult at times. Im having trouble myself sometimes, but i generally like the springs a lot stiffer then Schutt does anyway.

[DonULFonso]

The Fighterstick features 3 axes: there's an additional (throttle-)wheel left of the stick. Other than that it's like the others already have said: the Fighterstick features 2 coolie-hats more than the Combatstick which has simple buttons instead of these coolies - since you can never have "too many" programmable positions I for one would always recommend the Fighterstick over the Combatstick: you'll only buy it once and then use it for years over years to come, so why spare at the wrong end?!

[Greebo]

I had problems reaching the hatswitch on my Fighterstick, after a few sorties my hand would ache due to constantly stretching for it. So what I did was to carve a piece of balsa wood into a hand rest. This block is stuck onto the base of the handgrip with double sided tape and raises my hand about one inch.

I have wondered about the guy CH modelled this stick around. I'm figuring he's 7 feet tall with hands like dinner plates.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Schatzi
The problem with the X45 is that the springs are really stiff and the movement of plastic on plastic sometimes "sticks" a bit. Makes very fine inputs difficult at times.

Experienced just the same. Was acceptable when flying planes, but made gunning in Ostwind extremely difficult.
So I went back to my good olī Cyborg 3D Gold, and am only using the 45īs throttle.

[Eagler]

spray this onto a paper towel and then wipe it on the underside of the x45 cup  (what the bottom of the spring presses on) and the top rim of the ring the cup rotates on, it does wonders
you have to do it often but it keeps the x45 alot smoother.

[Xjazz]

Hi Schutt

I use CH FS with Saitek X35T throttle and Logitech racing pedals

Here is mine solution for the POV-hat reaching problem.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Eagler

spray this onto a paper towel and then wipe it on the underside of the x45 cup  (what the bottom of the spring presses on) and the top rim of the ring the cup rotates on, it does wonders
you have to do it often but it keeps the x45 alot smoother.

Try
Teflon Lube

and you never use anything else.

Works GREAT on fishing reels also

[38ruk]

It seems that i'm not the only one that cant reach the 8way on the fighterstick. I  used a piece of foam pipe insulation for a hand rest and its been smooth sailing every since . 38

[ViZeen]

I done mine also. I bought the x45 when my ms winder broke, thought I was stepping up. But like its already been said I to am aggratvated by the spring and what it does to fine inputs. Also the rudder rocker...well it just plain blows

[Schatzi]

Originally posted by ViZeen
I done mine also. I bought the x45 when my ms winder broke, thought I was stepping up. But like its already been said I to am aggratvated by the spring and what it does to fine inputs. Also the rudder rocker...well it just plain blows

Well, better then the X52 any time. I cant post what those springs remind me off........

As for the rudder: Agree. I still prefer it to twisty though, saving up on pedals now.