Biggest Gun Myth?

[Terror]

Originally posted by GtoRA2
Here is my favorite.

There was a problem with the .45ACP round, and the .45 GAP was the fix.

Nothing wrong with the .45ACP except that .45ACP frames are large unless you give up quite a bit of round count.  The .45GAP allows .45ACP power in a smaller package without loosing round count.  I have heard alot of positive feedback on the .45GAP and very little negative.  (except from the hardcore .45ACP fanboi's who just say "why" instead valid arguments against the cartridge.)

Terror

edit for atrocious(sp?) spelling/typing.

[GtoRA2]

Glock no longer lists anything about the GAP on their site, you sure they still even make it?

[Terror]

Originally posted by Reynolds
Ummm.... NO? Solid rockets have two components, the solid rocket fuel, and liquid oxygen. They mix inside of the frame, but either way, they need to bring their own oxygen up with them.

Solid rockets include the oxidizer mixed in with the propellant before hand.  No external source of oxygen is required for a solid rocket to burn.  But once lit, there is pretty much no way to stop it until the entire propellat grain is burned.

Ammonium Perchlorate(oxidizer) and a "rubberized" polymer binder (PBAN I think was the acronym) (catalyst/fuel) are used in the Shuttle SRB and most of the Amatuer High Power rocket motors used in the hobby today.

Hybrid Rockets are what you are describing.  They use a liquid oxidizer (Nitrous Oxide is common) that is injected into a combustion chamber that is lined with a combustible fuel.  The combustible fuel is varied in these type of rockets, but is usually similar to the catalyst in solid motors.  The huge advantage of a hybrid is the ability to control thrust by varying the amout of oxidizer injected into the combustion chamber.

Terror

[Terror]

Originally posted by GtoRA2
Glock no longer lists anything about the GAP on their site, you sure they still even make it?

I don't think they have ever listed anything on the "www.glock.com" site.  I don't remember the last time it was updated....

Yep, they still make it.  They have the:

G37 - Standard Size
G38 - Compact
G39 - Sub-Compact

Terror

PS. I believe several other firearm manufacturers were making .45GAP chambered pistols, including Springfield and Kimber.

[WilldCrd]

Favorite gun myth: Ya can hit a person ON moving train from ANOTHER moving train...or something like that.
heard that in some old dennis hopper movie. always struck me as BS.

As for the assult rifle for hunting thing all i can say is to relate a true story:

years ago when i was nothing more than a pimply faced teenager my grandfather and great uncle (his brother) took me up to alaska to hunt.
we were up there for elk...or maybe moose (sorry its been awhile) anyways, we saw a HUGE grizzly and at the same time he saw us...and he wasnt to happy about it either, well the dumbarse guide spooked when the bear started sauntering towards us. He fired off a shot with a 30-06, hit the bear, REALLY pissed it off and the bear charged. My grandfater very clamly and cooley locked, loaded his 300mag wetherby took aim, while my great uncle put his hand on his shoulder, and called off ranged estimates at about 20yds or so my grandpappy fired killing the bear (hit right thru the left eye socket)
This whole time im skeered s**tless and i had 2 and only 2 things on my mind
A: dont pee your damn pants
B: wish i had a assult rifle or 30 or 50 cal machine gun (with optional tripod ofcourse)
So ya never know when a assult rifle in the wild might come in handy.

BTW my grandfather said later the reason he waited so long to take down the bear was he was really hoping the bear would change his mind and take off.
And we fired the guide

[Slash27]

Originally posted by Terror
I don't think they have ever listed anything on the "www.glock.com" site.  I don't remember the last time it was updated....

Yep, they still make it.  They have the:

G37 - Standard Size
G38 - Compact
G39 - Sub-Compact

Terror

PS. I believe several other firearm manufacturers were making .45GAP chambered pistols, including Springfield and Kimber.

What are your thoughts on the .357 Sig?


And where the hell is your brother??

[SMIDSY]

Originally posted by Reynolds
Ummm.... NO? Solid rockets have two components, the solid rocket fuel, and liquid oxygen. They mix inside of the frame, but either way, they need to bring their own oxygen up with them.

if guns can fire underwater (they can, just not on full or semi auto), then they can fire in space, assuming the shells dont explode from the lack of air pressure.

[Squire]

I got used to the 303 Jungle carbine after awhile (stock metal butt plate, army issue), but it was an early lesson that what makes a gun practical and user friendly is also a consideration, not just that it is "308", or "7mm" or whatever...

Much preffered the full size Enfiend myself. I tell ya, you appreciate gas operated battle rifles after firing an army bolt action

[Terror]

Originally posted by Slash27
What are your thoughts on the .357 Sig?


And where the hell is your brother??

I like the .357 Sig.  Only shot it a few times though.  Pretty healthy round.  Felt alot like the 40S&W to me.  Maybe a tad bit more recoil, but not much.

Terror

PS.  My Bro is just chillin at home.  Says he's playing alot of solitaire.  Oh well..  Maybe when AH:TOD is released....

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Chairboy
.22s aren't lethal.

I hear that one a lot.  Usually in posts that make vague references to "stopping power".

Mmmkay.

Bayonne NJ Cop told me a couple weeks ago that the 22 is the preferred weapon used in Mafia killings. (single bullet to the head)

Says cause it isnt as loud as a firecracker so few people pay any attention to the sound. And cause the round enters the skull and usually kinda bounces around on the inside scrabling the brains as it goes.
all without making the mess that lager calibre would.

Dont know how true it is.
But seems to make sense.

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Chairboy
AKA animals of mass destruction.

Anyhow, it doesn't matter whether it's for hunting or not.  The bill of rights establishes what our rights are, and the ownership of guns is clearly spelled out.  To assert that it's a collective right instead of an individual right (the main argument of most anti-gun types) is strange because that makes it the ONLY one of the bill of rights that is not individual.

Also, there was a study done in the mid to late 80's iirc by 36 scholars of the constitution. 34 of the 36 said it was an individual right, not a collective right.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by OOZ662
They aren't lethal if you can't shoot. But that goes for anything but a shotgun.

[OT]Anybody remember the 2-gauge shotgun? Was a mountain cannon turned into a shotgun. Some guy blew the $^&* out of a deer with one.[/OT]

I think my favorite myth (that isn't a myth) is the one that you can't get shot if you're underwater. The MythBusters tested it figuring it was a pile of crap until they discovered that rounds shatter when they hit the water. The bigger the gun they tried, the more the round shattered and the less distance it went. They said that if you're more than 2 feet under the water's surface, a gun can't touch you from above.

Yea but the larger question would then be.
How long can you hold your breath?

[Debonair]

Originally posted by Halo
What are some gun myths and misconceptions that most surprise you?

0.44 magnum wont blow your head clean off
it will be messy

[Debonair]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Yea but the larger question would then be.
How long can you hold your breath?

a man has got to know his limitations

[lasersailor184]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Bayonne NJ Cop told me a couple weeks ago that the 22 is the preferred weapon used in Mafia killings. (single bullet to the head)

Says cause it isnt as loud as a firecracker so few people pay any attention to the sound. And cause the round enters the skull and usually kinda bounces around on the inside scrabling the brains as it goes.
all without making the mess that lager calibre would.

Dont know how true it is.
But seems to make sense.

Very true.  .22 caliber is the most popular caliber out of all rounds, pistol or rifle.  It's very easy to buy subsonic rounds for absolute low prices.  Add onto that the idea that .22 caliber guns are the most popular.  While bullet stamping never worked, each gun leaves a particular marking on a bullet.

So the best thing to do is to use the most popular bullet, with the most popular gun with the ease of getting rid of ammo and gun.

Not to mention the ease of silencer manufacturing, you'll have an absolute silent untrackable gun.