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Offline wooley

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« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2006, 04:01:18 PM »
I wonder if this movie will be about how the Esquadrille Lafayette single handedly kept the German air forces at bay until the the first world war got properly underway in 1917, in much the same way as the American submariners captured the Enigma machine and that Pearl Harbor was really a moral victory.

I also can't wait to see B17's drop bouncing bombs in the remake of the Dambusters.

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« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2006, 05:51:04 PM »
anyone try the demo?
demo

it is over 180mb

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« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2006, 11:57:52 AM »
According to the interview/article out in today's WSJ, comments on the 22 real planes used in the movie...........

"......a 1909 Bleriot owned by the Shuttleworth Collection in England.  3 French Nieuport 17's, like those flown by the American squadron, came from private museums, and 4 replicas were built for the movie."

On making the movie believable....


"For the movie "Flyboys", Mr. Bill, an avid aerobatic pilot himself, pressed for making the flying sequences believable to real aviators - a hurdle that few aviation movies have cleared. "So many so-called "flying movies" are so bad that pilots just roll their eyes and wait for it to be over," he said.  By using a new type of digital camera, filmmakers captured much longer action sequences than is possible with standard film cameras, so they were able to string together alot of real flying.

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The filmmakers reserved computer animation for the most harrowing scenes, such as those that required airplanes to come within inches of colliding during head-on gun battles.  To make the scenes as believable as possible, Mr. Bill outfitted one of the WWI planes with a device that measured flight data, and then filmed the plane as it twisted and rolled through violent combat maneuvers.  The data was fed into the animators' computers so that "even the simulated stuff has to follow the laws of aerodynamics as much as possible," he said."

The film was debuted at Oshkosh, and recieved a standing ovation from the crowd at the air show.

The standout quote.  "I will feel I have really done my job if I can make just one person who comes to this movie feel airsick."

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« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2006, 01:56:30 PM »
"Worse, someone made the bizarre decision to tag all the planes' machinegun fire with thick smoke trails. If I'd never seen a bullet fired in a movie before it might seem cool, but since I have and thus know they don't leave a contrail like a missile, it's distracting. Bullets don't spew smoke as they fly towards their targets. Choosing a special effect so outside reality in a film planted so firmly in reality is bizarre." - from http://www.cinemablend.com/reviews/Flyboys-1805.html

I guess to defend the movie (which I havnt seen yet), this guy who basically calls the movie horrible, has obviously never heard of tracers....(whether they were used, or not in WWI)
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« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2006, 02:11:13 PM »
Havent seen it yet .. goin to tho :)

Thing we all know about WW1 Air combat tho .. it was close.

Those planes (the good fighters, there were a lot of bad ones!) ..could and did turn FAST and the guns sucked so badly that you had to stick 'em right in a guys back before pullin the trigger.

50 yards was a long ways away .. the good pilots liked to get CLOSE..
..even to the point of chewin yer rudder off if that's what it took.

They could tell what color your eyes were on a merge, and see your hand signals.

I like the idea that they used motion capture on a real rag bag :)

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« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2006, 02:40:43 PM »
Part of the review from my local rag.  I think I will pass:

"Most of the airborne combat in Flyboys involves computer graphics that look as artificial as they are. Many of the aircraft might have been real, but in some shots the planes, the fireballs and even the clouds seem to have been drawn.

If you've never been aloft with one of these movies, the action might impress you, but it has been done better and more authentically. Flyboys simply adds contemporary hunkdom to the formula, without much notice of the deadly reality."

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« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2006, 04:00:30 PM »
From the trailer...


"When the world went to war...they were the first to fly."


Holy ****, Regan beat teh Hitler and won teh WW1!!

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« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2006, 05:34:08 PM »
Well boys...I took one for the team.  I just got home from the movie "flyboy's"...I'm sure the movie is ending right about now, but I wouldnt know since I left early...TRUST ME WHEN I SAY THIS.  DO NOT SEE THIS MOVIE!
It is God awful!

I figured, hey, maybe because this guy doing the review screwed up so bad not knowing what tracers were, then just maybe he missed out on a lot of other things....NOPE

I think the only thing realistic about the movie was actually tracers!!!!!!!!!lmao

Thing's I learned from this movie...

1)-  WWI Fighter pilot's had frosted blonde tips in there hair?

2)-   Only after 2 minutes of being painted on, all nose art appear's to be withered and worn, like it was on the aircraft for years in combat...

3)-   Lion's are in France, and fighter squadrons actually keep them as "dogs"...

4)-   During WWI, all pilot's were in-subordinate, and had zero respect for their Officer's....AND THEIR OFFICER's LAUGHED IT OFF WITH THEM....

My favorite part of the movie, and I believe they must have consulted with HTC for this, because they have the same collission model, is that a wood and fabric aircraft can collide with another...the one doing the ramming can fly off without a scratch, and the one being rammed explodes into pieces....yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaa

just dont see it...dont see it in the movies...dont rent it from blockbuster...

it is terrible

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« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2006, 05:41:08 PM »
the laffiette escadrille DID keep a pet lion. and most WWI flyboys WERE suprisingly insabordinate towards superiors.

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« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2006, 05:50:42 PM »
Well pardon me smidsy...Please, go see flyboy's then....and dont do a matinee, make it an evening showing =)
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« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2006, 05:53:58 PM »
I'll wait until I can rent it. Or get it from a friend...
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« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2006, 08:57:59 PM »
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the laffiette escadrille DID keep a pet lion....


two of them, one named 'whisky' the other 'soda'

http://www.neam.org/lafescweb/conflict7.html

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« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2006, 09:33:16 PM »
I find it hilarious that all of the detractors of this film don't know what the hell they're talking about. I'll definitely have to see this movie now.

Sheesh, cav... You really made yourself look like a horse's bellybutton in that post of yours.

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« Reply #43 on: September 22, 2006, 09:37:25 PM »
if you want to see some top quality first world war stunt flying with out any CG

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« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2006, 10:06:30 PM »
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I find it hilarious that all of the detractors of this film don't know what the hell they're talking about. I'll definitely have to see this movie now.

Sheesh, cav... You really made yourself look like a horse's bellybutton in that post of yours.


Apparantly they dont know what they were talking about, because the film portrayed a single male, full grown lion which didnt use either of the names mentioned...

And you say in-subordination was common?  Your right...I'm sure there were ton's of brand new pilot's during the war who attacked ranking officers, and stole airplanes without any reprecussions (sp)...

Go ahead and see the movie...I really dont care Fruda, it's your $10-15 bucks...Maybe you like that type of stuff
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