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Offline cav58d

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« on: September 05, 2006, 04:49:09 PM »
http://www.defendthedefenders.org/

I know this is the perfect forum to share this link with...Please take a look-  It's the least we can do...

"Innocent till proven guilty.  PERIOD!"



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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2006, 04:56:32 PM »
I read about these guys a few months back.  They where kept in solitary confinement for months on end with out even haven charges against them.  Absolutly terrible.

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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2006, 04:21:40 AM »
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I read about these guys a few months back.  They where kept in solitary confinement for months on end with out even haven charges against them.  Absolutly terrible.


who care, when it happen in Guantanamo none care.

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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2006, 06:39:07 AM »
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who care, when it happen in Guantanamo none care.


This guy has a point.
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2006, 07:01:10 AM »
he has a point?  where?  the people in guantanamo are lucky to be alive.  they should have been shot on sight and then interrogated.  our soldiers and marines combat decisions should not be second guessed by the liberals in this country sitting comfortably at home.  the values of the mainstream press are so far removed from the views and values of our people that they have rendered themselves irrelevent in all matters.  they themselves are eroding the first amendment with their consistent drivel and attempts to define how we should think and feel.  the new york times and other major newspapers as well as the three major networks can carry fabricated stories that appeal to their soulmates in europe but few Americans outside of the blue voting blocks care much about what they spew other than to express revulsion.  I think I need a few black teeshirts today.  thanks for posting that link.

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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2006, 07:08:58 AM »
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who care, when it happen in Guantanamo none care.



You know better.
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2006, 07:18:33 AM »
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You know better.


What ya mean ?

An innocent in custody in Guantanamo is guilty when an innocent elsewhere is innocent ?

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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2006, 10:41:20 AM »
All I'm saying is if we are going to treat some people suspected of villany one way, we'd damn well better treat all people suspected of villany the same.  Even if that's our "infallable" soldiers.
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2006, 12:33:37 PM »
I give the soldiers; Better men then myself, the benifit of the doubt by default...
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2006, 12:41:20 PM »
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I give the soldiers; Better men then myself, the benifit of the doubt by default...


I just don't believe war crimes should be absolved if you win.

It might be a Polish-background thing here.

>shrug<

And just because someone's in a uniform doesn't automatically make them a better man then a civilian, Cav...  Although, doubtless many (most, probably) are.
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2006, 01:06:08 PM »
I really question seriously whether muslim militants attacking the constitution deserve its protections.  My gut feeling is they do not.  But I will respect and abide by the courts decisions.
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2006, 01:48:29 PM »
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I really question seriously whether muslim militants attacking the constitution deserve its protections.  My gut feeling is they do not.  

By doing so will you respect your constitution ?

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But I will respect and abide by the courts decisions. [/B]


It's the only correct attitude IMO.

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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2006, 04:38:34 PM »
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What ya mean ?

An innocent in custody in Guantanamo is guilty when an innocent elsewhere is innocent ?

@storch : Belch :D


Spoken like a true Frenchman.  All arabs are innocent (especially if it means the chance to make some cash off them).
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2006, 04:49:23 PM »
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who care, when it happen in Guantanamo none care.


Weren't the people being held in Guantanamo captured on a battlefield? Hardly innocent imo.
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2006, 05:08:01 PM »
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Weren't the people being held in Guantanamo captured on a battlefield? Hardly innocent imo.


So why were some released if they were not innocent ?