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« on: September 05, 2006, 07:42:52 PM »
In light of Steve Irwin's passing, I recommend watching this film.  Tragicomicumentary.  For every Steve Irwin there's a hundred guys who don't make it to the Discovery Channel.  Grizzly Man is about one of those guys.
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2006, 08:04:12 PM »
Is that he one with the kook that went to live by the Grizzlies and filmed himself and we got to watch him slowly get more and more irrational till he obviously went completely insane insane.
Then one of the grizzlies ate him? LOL

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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2006, 08:19:42 PM »
Seen it.

I got the impression that he spent his entire life with the whites of his eyes showing.  He had no sense of danger at all.  It not only caused his own death, but that of an innocent, trusting girl.

And yet, he's an environmental hero to some.  Lord help the poor young soul who's inspired to follow his example.

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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2006, 08:48:54 PM »
He's bear scat now; too bad about the girl.
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2006, 09:04:25 PM »
that person was no steve irwin, too bad about the outcome though

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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2006, 09:16:32 PM »
Comparring Tim Treadwell to Steve Irwin is very unfair to Irwin.  Enough said.
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2006, 09:22:56 PM »
Steve Irwin had humor, charm, and despite his apparent insanity, expertise and professionalism to boot.

Treadwill had none of those things, except for the insanity. An idiot to the last. Yes, too bad about the girl.

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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2006, 10:48:42 PM »
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Comparing Tim Treadwell to Steve Irwin is very unfair to Irwin.  Enough said.


Ain't that the truth. Steve Irwin was an over the top entertainer who likely did more for wildlife and conservation than greenpeace and the sierra club combined. He knew the character he created was what it was, he did it on purpose, he had a reason. Treadwell on the other hand was truly out of his mind, and from what I've read, often under the influence of hard core drugs.

I never watched Steve Irwin's show like some people watch shows like his, and like some so called fans watch racing, just waiting for the crash and marveling at how bad it was.

From what I've read, it seems more and more like a freak accident. They say he didn't do anything to the stingray, it just spooked and stabbed him. Even worse, it's possible that he made it fatal by pulling the barb out. In place, it might have kept him from bleeding out. If his friend and manager is telling the truth, it was keeping the wound mostly sealed, and when he pulled it out, he opened the wound and made it even worse, and his blood pressure went to zero instantly. He probably didn't realize how bad he was hurt.
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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2006, 11:12:59 PM »
it truly was a freak accident and underscores the inherent danger one faces when ever we enter the wild.  if a man like irwin could be killed..... from what I understand it was a fairly large bullnose stingray.  depending on the size of the ray the barbs on that animal can be up to 12" in length.  a simple cut from the barb delivers toxins as well as bacteria. it's a pretty nasty wound and they often produce amputations and occassionally death. a direct puncture anywhere to chest is likely to be fatal and painfully so.

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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2006, 11:16:41 PM »
"A man who won't die for something is not fit to live."-  Martin Luther King, Jr.

Just something for you pessimist to ponder
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2006, 11:19:08 PM »
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"A man who won't die for something is not fit to live."-  Martin Luther King, Jr.

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pfft that was easy for him to say.

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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2006, 11:59:17 PM »
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"A man who won't die for something is not fit to live."-  Martin Luther King, Jr.

Just something for you pessimist to ponder


Sorry, but I'll have to draw a distinction here. If grizzly boy died while trying to stop a rifle bullet from striking one of his beloved bears, he would have 'died for something'. If he'd died trying to save a drowning bear, he would have 'died for something'.

As it stands, this idiot brought his hapless girlfriend into the woods, set up camp near a stream where the bears regularly fed, and, to boot, during a time when they struggle to put on their extra winter weight. To make matters worse, the food was in short supply, making the situation that much more dangerous. If he were an expert of any sort, he would have known the risks, and had he chosen to undertake them anyway, would have never put somebody else in jeopardy.

He died trying to impress his girlfriend, and, sadly, took her with him.  And in regards to all his 'work' prior to his demise, it's questionable that he did any good at all. In fact, his constant presence may have even conditioned these wild animals in a way that promoted dangerous encounters with other humans--namely those that came there to kill them, not give them pet names.

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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2006, 12:22:33 AM »
People confuse letting animals live, with letting animals live with us. Seems that grizzly dude thought he could be accepted by them. Even domesticated animals freak out. Maybe he should have chosen something like wild hare or something to befriend.

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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2006, 12:45:19 AM »
It's rather annoying how many people are commenting on both situations when they really know nothing about either.  

Similarly, both entertainers died from a Rogue Animal.  There is no reason why the stingray attacked Steve Irwin.  There is no reason why that grizzly bear attacked Treadwell.  While both people could have been labeled as kooks, they both lived good lives showing people what else those predators can be.  

The distinction is that neither were killed by animals that were in the norm.  Irwin was attacked by a stingray that had no reason or purpose in attacking him.  Treadwell was attacked by an outcast grizzly bear that had no reason or purpose in attacking him.  However, in both cases, what the animal did was unexpected and different.
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2006, 12:58:31 AM »
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He's bear scat now; too bad about the girl.

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