Carts for Everyone!

[Sandman_SBM]

The Supreme Court has ruled that in the PGA there is no significant advantage gained by riding a cart rather than walking the course.

Have they ever played? What's next? Do we modify the rules in MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, and NASCAR so people with disabilities can play there also?

I have the solution... Give everyone a cart.

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[This message has been edited by Sandman_SBM (edited 05-30-2001).]

[fd ski]

You can't be serious. What next ? You gonna call Golf a SPORT ? Get the heck outta here...

It's a GAME for old overweight men which doesn't require any athletic abilities, none, zero, nada. It's a stupid little game advertised as some sort of "elite upper class" relaxation...

To think that someone would actually advocate that WALKING the course is considered a part of the CHALLENGE is ludicrous. How come none of those overpaid buffoons carries their own fricking bag ? Too heavy ?

I'm disguised that they waisted Supreme Court's time with this roadkill case.


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[1776]

Will the PGA change their rules and allow everyone to use a cart?  

It's getting to the point now that rules mean nothing.  I guess Laws are next to only be applied when ya feel like it.  Oops, forgot that this has already been done, Clinton administration !!

[Sandman_SBM]

 

Originally posted by fd ski:
To think that someone would actually advocate that WALKING the course is considered a part of the CHALLENGE is ludicrous. How come none of those overpaid buffoons carries their own fricking bag ? Too heavy ?

Here's what the players said:

 

"I think we ought to take them all out and play golf," Jack Nicklaus said of the justices. "I think they'd change their minds. I promise you, it's fundamental."

I'm sure Mr. Nicklaus knows much more about golf than I. I defer to his opinion on this one.

 

"Walking six miles a day six days a week is part of the deal," said another tour veteran, Steve Pate. "If you don't think we're a sport, then a part of my premise is gone. But I think we are."

 

Frank Nobilo, a native of New Zealand, said there was no doubt that the game is harder when a player has to walk.

"Anytime you get to ride, you gain an advantage, don't you? I think you do," Nobilo said. "It's the same reason they try to ban drugs in sports — because it gives an advantage."

As for myself, walking while carrying the bag is certainly more draining than riding the cart. Of course, the cart brings other difficulties in the form of that ice chest in the back (full of beer).



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[JimBear]

Thanks for sharing your opinion on Golf and Golfers, nothing like using a broad brush of prefab predudice to describe people who enjoy a passtime, er Sport.
Then again I too am disgusted that the Supreme Courts time was wasted on this. Guess we agree on something here  


JimBear

[AKDejaVu]

 

It's a GAME for old overweight men which doesn't require any athletic abilities, none, zero, nada. It's a stupid little game advertised as some sort of "elite upper class" relaxation...

LOL! Spoken like someone that tried it once because it looked easy.  

And that Tiger Woods... what a hippo.  Greg Norman.. nicknamed pudge?  Jack Nicklaus... always with the beer belly.  Are you going to tell me that Football has any less obesity than the PGA?  Or baseball?  Come on.  The only sport I can think of with fit players is the NBA (soccer intentionally omitted)... and even there height is more of a requirement than ability for many players.

As far as the decision goes....

The PGA brought this on themselves.  The individual that filed the suit had no advantage to gain.  It was a handicap that caused the situation... and there is no way the Supreme Court was going to rule against him.  The PGA should have made an exception in this case.  If you ever saw this gentleman just walking from the cart to his golf ball you'd know why he wasn't gaining anything over other golfers.

Its just disappointing that the decision had to go to the Supreme Court... and I think the rules of the PGA will have to change because of it.  They really should fire their legal advisors.

AKDejaVu

[SeaWulfe]

You can't beat the crap out of anyone in golf... therefore I don't classify it as a sport..

Now if they allowed revised rules, I'd have "Tackle Golf" where you can run across the green and level some poor bastard just before he putts in for a perfect game.

Oh yeah and you HAVE to be loaded up on beer too...
Until then, it ain't no sport!
:-)
-SW

[Sandman_SBM]

Oh yeah... bring it on... Full Contact Golf.

[fd ski]

tried it twice, found it tidiously boring at least till the point where i got drunk, then i found some enjoyment in it. ( note that i feel you have to be on the verge of passing out to like this "game" )  



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Bartlomiej Rajewski
aka. Wing Commander fd-ski
Northolt Wing
1st Polish Fighter Wing
303 (Polish) Squadron "Kosciuszko" RAF
308 (Polish) Squadron "City of Cracow" RAF
315 (Polish) Squadron "City of Deblin" RAF

Turning 109s and 190s into scrap metal since 1998

Northolt Wing Headquarters

[Maverick]

I noticed none of those who posted against the cart ruling are disabled. Perhaps if you didn't have full use of your legs it might make a difference. You know, the old walk a mile in my shoes type of thing.

The disability of that one low ranking golfer is what brought this all on. I guess if that guy loses his leg entirely the PGA would require he not use an artificial leg as the other players aren't allowed to use one to help their game.....

Mav <--- doesn't think much about golf and nothing at all about the PGA.

[Sandman_SBM]

Oh... this isn't about the rights of handicapped people. They facilities all have to abide by the law and provide access.

The issue is that the PGA was forced to modify their rules to allow handicapped individuals to compete. It's just silly. These are professional athletes (if you regard golf to be a sport). This is an entirely different level of competition.

There is a difference however slight it may be. Walking four rounds of golf is more difficult than riding it. Anyone that has ever golfed both ways knows that there is a difference.

[SeaWulfe]

I know for a fact it's harder to walk 9 holes of golf than riding in a cart..
Oh we aren't talking about mini putt putt?

N'ermind.
-SW

[AKDejaVu]

 

The issue is that the PGA was forced to modify their rules to allow handicapped individuals to compete. It's just silly.

Actually.. that's not entirely true.  The PGA was forced to modify their rules to allow a handicapped individual to compete.  The idea that they should have to make accomodations for anyone's various handicap is not in question.

The idea that the PGA could not figure out that this individual gained absolutely zero advantages over other players by using a cart is simply amazing.  They forced this on themselves.

The one quote that irritated me a little was by Jack Nicklaus... the "let them walk 6 miles 6 days a week".  I say let Jack walk 100 yards 1 time with his leg on fire to get a glimpse of what he's fighting against.

AKDejaVu

[Jayhawk]

I have a total knee replacement (left) and titianuim pins holding my right ankle together with extreme arthritis (note to self semi-trucks win against motorcycles everytime). I play golf. I don't ride in a frek'n cart. I often play 27 holes. It is hard work to carry around the bag and play, but I love the game and being outdoors.  I could have a handicap sticker on my car, I don't. I am not a pansey. Martin is. The cart does give him an advantage when they play more than 18 holes in a day. To all my redneck friends.....tell me pool is a sport how about darts. Weight lifting? There are many types of sports. Some require skill, some brute force and power, some a little of both, but I would never bag on anyones sport.



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[Fatty]

Walking 18 holes does not a sport make, unless you're a professional bowler.

Not completely contrary to your post Jay, but anyone who thinks the sport (skill, competition, draw, whathaveyou) of golf comes from the fact they walk 18 holes is a little off base.  If they walked 18 holes with people throwing rocks at them, you might have a case, or maybe 11 guys trying to tackle you as you went to your next tee.

[This message has been edited by Fatty (edited 05-31-2001).]