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Offline Delirium

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« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2006, 12:52:01 AM »
Heck, if I had my way I'd perk anything with an ENY of 30 or lower...

A cost of 1-3 in perks would help keep numbers a little lower, besides, even with a perk cost do you see things like the Dora and the La7 running any less?  :)
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« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2006, 12:54:14 AM »
To do my part in supporting diversity in aircraft, all other things being equal, I attack Spit 16's and La-7's first.
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« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2006, 12:57:51 AM »
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Originally posted by goldelks
Ok name 4 non-perked planes taht can counter La7?


I'll name the two that are superior to the La-7 in a dogfight:

Bf 109G-2
Spitfire Mk.XVI

There's a longer list of fighters that can effectively counter the La-7. Most of these have already been named by others.

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« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2006, 01:23:39 AM »
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Originally posted by Widewing
I'll name the two that are superior to the La-7 in a dogfight:

Bf 109G-2
Spitfire Mk.XVI

There's a longer list of fighters that can effectively counter the La-7. Most of these have already been named by others.

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imop, La7 has no rival unperked,  even the Tempest in close stall fight is  not better

  La7 can engage and disengage anytime wants the G2 ,  if is not stupid and gets in turn/stall fight,  

 109G2 is porked like all Luftwaffe, those gondolas make it move like a fat pregnant cow:, with only 1x 20mm, the firepower is a joke
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« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2006, 01:27:56 AM »
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Originally posted by Delirium
Heck, if I had my way I'd perk anything with an ENY of 30 or lower...

A cost of 1-3 in perks would help keep numbers a little lower, besides, even with a perk cost do you see things like the Dora and the La7 running any less?  :)


i like that idea, it seems it would eliminate a lot of cannon planes. dogfighting would have some slack to give to the guy bein attacked aside from gettin hit wit two rounds an losin a wing. it leaves a little more room for error.

My wish would be to do away wit cannons, its far too easy to shoot down a plane with a quick tap of the trigger. But because its historicaly correct it wont change.
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« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2006, 02:09:29 AM »
If you're talking about perking the La7 based on overusage, you have to perk the N1K2 and Spit16 at the same time.  The la7(Followed closely by the n1k2) accounts for about 6.5% of the total kills.  When the C-hog was perked, it was scoring ~20% of the total kills.  A bit of a difference.
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« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2006, 03:04:12 AM »
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Originally posted by ghi
imop, La7 has no rival unperked,  even the Tempest in close stall fight is  not better

  La7 can engage and disengage anytime wants the G2 ,  if is not stupid and gets in turn/stall fight,  

 109G2 is porked like all Luftwaffe, those gondolas make it move like a fat pregnant cow:, with only 1x 20mm, the firepower is a joke


The LA-5 dominates the LA-7 in a furball.
The F4U's dominate the LA-7 in a furball.
Spitfires, Hurri's and Zeros all dominate the LA-7 in a furball.
The G2 is surpisingly capable of dispatching several LA-7s even with it's single 20mm.

The LA-7 can only run from these planes and B'n'Z in hope someone makes a mistake. It the LA-7 gets slow it's dead against any of these planes.

Then you have the high speed planes like the Dora, P-51, K4 and G-14, all of which are at least almost equal to the LA-7 down low and dominate it at altitude.

Don't get me wrong the LA-7 is a fantastic plane, but it's no better overall than the 15 or so planes I just mentioned.

I think the reason people hate the LA-7 so much is it's got the low-level speed to catch people trying to egress home. Not much more infuriating then trying to dis-engage from a gaggle of LA-7's. The only solution is to kill them all and head home at your leisure.
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Offline bkbandit

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« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2006, 05:29:10 AM »
how long ago was it that f4u1c was unperked?
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Offline SkyRock

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« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2006, 05:52:23 AM »
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Originally posted by JB42
My beef isn't why the La7 is not perked. More of why the Ta152 is. Many many forum topics have brought up how poorly modeled our Ta is and the armament is not much more deadly than say a Typhoon or CHurri. So rather than perk the La7, unperk the Ta152.
Wow!  I agree with 42!:aok
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« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2006, 05:55:58 AM »
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Originally posted by ghi
imop, La7 has no rival unperked,  even the Tempest in close stall fight is  not better

  La7 can engage and disengage anytime wants the G2 ,  if is not stupid and gets in turn/stall fight,  

 109G2 is porked like all Luftwaffe, those gondolas make it move like a fat pregnant cow:, with only 1x 20mm, the firepower is a joke
couldn't disagree more, srry ghi!
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« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2006, 05:57:21 AM »
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Originally posted by g00b
The LA-5 dominates the LA-7 in a furball.
The F4U's dominate the LA-7 in a furball.
Spitfires, Hurri's and Zeros all dominate the LA-7 in a furball.
The G2 is surpisingly capable of dispatching several LA-7s even with it's single 20mm.

The LA-7 can only run from these planes and B'n'Z in hope someone makes a mistake. It the LA-7 gets slow it's dead against any of these planes.

Then you have the high speed planes like the Dora, P-51, K4 and G-14, all of which are at least almost equal to the LA-7 down low and dominate it at altitude.

Don't get me wrong the LA-7 is a fantastic plane, but it's no better overall than the 15 or so planes I just mentioned.

I think the reason people hate the LA-7 so much is it's got the low-level speed to catch people trying to egress home. Not much more infuriating then trying to dis-engage from a gaggle of LA-7's. The only solution is to kill them all and head home at your leisure.
Dmn, I agree with g00b too?  Something just isn't right! :-)
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Offline Nightshift82

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« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2006, 06:54:07 AM »
has anyone brought up on how the LA7 is not good up high?  I don't think it should be perked becuase of that and it's short range.
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« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2006, 06:59:09 AM »
Not only should it remain unperked, but it should get a tactical nook with it!:aok
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« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2006, 09:37:56 AM »
For the luv of god perk it.
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« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2006, 10:00:54 AM »
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Originally posted by Latrobe
who thinks it should be perked?


.........all the kids who were brought up to believe that the Mustang & Spit won the war & can't handle the fact that the Russians made some first class fighters.  ;)

I agree with Delerium & Bagrat.  A small perk penalty for low ENY planes to encourage more diverse use of plane set.  (secures tin-hat for flak from the "we pay our $/£ so why should we be penalised for flying what we want brigade").

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