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Offline Stampf

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« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2006, 11:59:10 AM »
The LA7 was never the backbone of the Red Airforce.  For this reason, coupled with it's late war, and reletively low production run, a small perk would be fine for me but not needed.  I do not see any more La7's in the MA than say...Niki's or late war Spits.

When I see an LA7, I attack!.  Figuring it is a pilot even newer than myself and possibly even less skilled.  Flying porked LW rides, I usually know if I am right or wrong wihin the first minute of engagement.

It's really much like pro sports.  Any team can beat another on any given day.  It's in the hands of the players.  An La7 in the hands of a competant pilot is leathal.  So is a TBM.  Look what restrictor plates have done to big track auto racing.  I don't think anyone wants that boredom here.  Variety and challange are good things, and I don't worry so much about what the red icon over the plane says, as I do hope the pilot is an entertaining adversary.

Having said all of the above, do I think the whole perk system is flawless?  Of course not, nothing is.

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« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2006, 12:54:41 PM »
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Originally posted by Stampf
The LA7 was never the backbone of the Red Airforce.  For this reason, coupled with it's late war, and reletively low production run, a small perk would be fine for me but not needed.  I do not see any more La7's in the MA than say...Niki's or late war Spits.

When I see an LA7, I attack!.  Figuring it is a pilot even newer than myself and possibly even less skilled.  Flying porked LW rides, I usually know if I am right or wrong wihin the first minute of engagement.

It's really much like pro sports.  Any team can beat another on any given day.  It's in the hands of the players.  An La7 in the hands of a competant pilot is leathal.  So is a TBM.  Look what restrictor plates have done to big track auto racing.  I don't think anyone wants that boredom here.  Variety and challange are good things, and I don't worry so much about what the red icon over the plane says, as I do hope the pilot is an entertaining adversary.

Having said all of the above, do I think the whole perk system is flawless?  Of course not, nothing is.

Fight the pilot, not the plane.


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« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2006, 12:56:33 PM »
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Originally posted by Stampf
The LA7 was never the backbone of the Red Airforce.  For this reason, coupled with it's late war, and reletively low production run, a small perk would be fine for me but not needed.  I do not see any more La7's in the MA than say...Niki's or late war Spits.

When I see an LA7, I attack!.  Figuring it is a pilot even newer than myself and possibly even less skilled.  Flying porked LW rides, I usually know if I am right or wrong wihin the first minute of engagement.

It's really much like pro sports.  Any team can beat another on any given day.  It's in the hands of the players.  An La7 in the hands of a competant pilot is leathal.  So is a TBM.  Look what restrictor plates have done to big track auto racing.  I don't think anyone wants that boredom here.  Variety and challange are good things, and I don't worry so much about what the red icon over the plane says, as I do hope the pilot is an entertaining adversary.

Having said all of the above, do I think the whole perk system is flawless?  Of course not, nothing is.

Fight the pilot, not the plane.


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« Reply #48 on: September 07, 2006, 01:29:13 PM »
If you had a plane with a lousy cockpit view (that interfered with aiming and shooting, and SA), terrible ballistics, awful gas mileage because of a tiny fuel tank, had no drop tanks, performed worse than bad over 20K, and that carried pitiful ordinance, would you perk it?

Almost any American late war ride is an uber plane next to that list of deficiencies, but I don't see any demand to perk the P51D for example. Next to the LA7, the P51D is 'way uber because of its versatility, and it can eat the La-7 for lunch. So the La-7 can run away. Big deal.

Leave the La7 alone. It's a niche fighter at best. The only things it has going for it are speed and a reasonable ammo load. It's a terrible dogfighter, but when the horde visits, it has its uses as a base defender. What's it's K/D ratio these days anyway?

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« Reply #49 on: September 07, 2006, 01:44:21 PM »
I started out in the Spit V (for nostalgic reasons I guess), but most people would just ignore me and run to wherever they were going. Speed is what I need and the La-7 looked to be the speed king. Now I totally PWN people in it. It is totally and absolutely UBER and I LOVE it!

Leave it alone.

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« Reply #50 on: September 07, 2006, 01:47:21 PM »
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I started out in the Spit V (for nostalgic reasons I guess), but most people would just ignore me and run to wherever they were going. Speed is what I need and the La-7 looked to be the speed king. Now I totally PWN people in it. It is totally and absolutely UBER and I LOVE it!

Leave it alone.


 Is it you who PWN people, or is it the plane? Perhaps the reason you give out, may be exactly the reason why it should be perked.


 I say perk it.

 But then again, I want every plane post mid-'44 perked.

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« Reply #51 on: September 07, 2006, 01:55:53 PM »
Perk planes to your content, but there will always be one plane that’s faster than the others and that’s where you’ll find me. I learned to hate “runners” in the Spit, now I make a point of catching them and forcing them to fight me. I guess the “runners” don’t like that and that’s why these “perk the La” threads get started. If they don’t fight me they’re wasting my time, so I couldn’t care less what the “runners” think of the La-7. :)

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« Reply #52 on: September 07, 2006, 04:46:16 PM »
just so u know Viking i never run from a fight i either get 5 kills or die trying. I also NEVER fly the La7 cuz i hate  it so much they're fast, manueverable (1 of the fastest and and near best turning in the game i believe) they have guns that kill nearly everything, and the only downfall i see in them is that they cant go over 9K and win a fight. but no one ever goes that high to fight anyways all the fights are 5K or less (or atleast the ones i see)

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« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2006, 05:01:40 PM »
Latrobe, then you should start flying'em. You'll stop hating it and start loving it! :p

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« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2006, 05:47:51 PM »
Doubt it. I started flying them exclusively this tour. I couldn't take it. I ended up flying a few sorties in other planes with my squaddies.

However I'm about 60 for 10 in the LA5 and LA7 combined after only 3-4 nights of flying it this tour.

Just because it allows you to get kills easily doesn't mean it's a great plane. The gas mileage blows big time. The acceleration is retarded (once you slow down everything will catch you, EVERYthing). The ammo is adequate but the guns themselves are ridiculous. I've landed 5+ 20mm hit sprites (and hit sprites can be multiple hits) and have nothing fall off the other guy. I've peppered B24s with 200 20mm rounds and only got 1 gas leak from them. The guns suck terribly.

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« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2006, 05:55:54 PM »
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Flying porked LW rides, I usually know if I am right or wrong wihin the first minute of engagement.


There are no porked Luftwaffe rides... Only porked pilots.

That second one can often be fixed.

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« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2006, 06:03:03 PM »
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The acceleration is retarded (once you slow down everything will catch you, EVERYthing).


I wonder how you got that impression. If the La has one strength, it is acceleration. It´s one of the fastest accelerating planes in game at sea level. Better than 190D, Ki84, at all speeds. It´s beaten by a very narrow margin by Spit 16 at speeds under 200mph only. 109K4 is on par. The only plane capable of outperforming La7´s acceleration at all speeds is the Tempest, but also by just a very small margin.

The reason one still is shot down when gettin slow, is that the differences in acceleration don´t help that much if your enemy is 200 ft behind you and has same or better speed, but that holds true for every plane. The La is pure muscle!
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« Reply #57 on: September 07, 2006, 06:11:25 PM »
F4u1c was perked because of whines, LA7 should be perked for same
reason; whines.
Unperk all AC in the Main arena.
There is nothing about the MA that is historic, except whine, whine ,
whine.
If we all wanted game balance, wouldn't we be in the Allied vs Axis arena?

Just a thought.
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« Reply #58 on: September 07, 2006, 07:27:09 PM »
PWN! :D



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« Reply #59 on: September 07, 2006, 08:13:56 PM »
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I wonder how you got that impression. If the La has one strength, it is acceleration. It´s one of the fastest accelerating planes in game at sea level. Better than 190D, Ki84, at all speeds. It´s beaten by a very narrow margin by Spit 16 at speeds under 200mph only. 109K4 is on par. The only plane capable of outperforming La7´s acceleration at all speeds is the Tempest, but also by just a very small margin.

The reason one still is shot down when gettin slow, is that the differences in acceleration don´t help that much if your enemy is 200 ft behind you and has same or better speed, but that holds true for every plane. The La is pure muscle!


I got that impression flying it. Even in a steep 45-degree dive for several thousand feet the speed only builds up after a prolonged dive. If you lose any speed you're often going to hurt. You're good at accelerating through the lower bands, but you can't get to "escape speed" if there's anybody behind you.