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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #45 on: September 08, 2006, 08:08:38 PM »
The DNC basically told ABC that they would be in jepordy of losing their broadcast liscense (IE stifle free speech) if the democrats take control of the senate next year.  

so much for the constitution.

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« Reply #46 on: September 08, 2006, 08:13:31 PM »
Again .... don't see it. Just see the claims. ;) :aok

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« Reply #47 on: September 08, 2006, 08:15:04 PM »
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Again .... don't see it. Just see the claims. ;) :aok


Kinda like wiretapping and the SWIFT program huh

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« Reply #48 on: September 08, 2006, 08:55:49 PM »
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"Tell me republicans don't play the American people like a violin! How come a gas prices falling so fast? Nov. is fast approaching. Why rewrite history about 9/11? The truth is inconvient for them! How dispicable can one party be? Well, the party that brought us Watergate, Iran-Contra, and just look at Bush & Co and the crimes its been raking up!"

quote from huffpst on this subject today^^


Well, since most librules have no conception of economics, (Arriana prolly went to Wellsley or a similarly intellectually challenging school)--she should understand that gas supplies are UP, making it LESS valuable--and the REASON supplies are UP due is  the end of the summer driving season and that the refineries aren't having to divert limited production capacity to the clean-burning blends they use out west during summer

(Note--next May we can start having this argument again:aok )
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« Reply #49 on: September 08, 2006, 09:15:32 PM »
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Kinda like wiretapping and the SWIFT program huh


Are you working toward a point or are we just enjoying rambling hour? I'm good with rambling hour, yaknow ... being a fellow Texican. :D

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« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2006, 09:22:28 PM »
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"For dramatic and narrative purposes, the movie contains fictionalized scenes, composite and representative characters and dialogue, and time compression," ABC said in its statement."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/07/911.film.clinton.offic.ap/index.html

What, 9/11 wasn't dramatic enough for TV?  Give me a break.


that was the point I was gonna make.
There was enough that happened that they didnt need to fictionalise a single thing.

Why they would take crative licence on this is beyond understanding.

And is a little early foir revisionalist history
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« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2006, 10:02:08 PM »
I waited to respond until I could research the story behind the hype...

It looks like the producers are putting in a bunch of BS "drama" into the story.  As if the pure facts didn't have enough drama.  Anyhow, I'm 100% behind the clinton staffers on this one.  The show producers should have known better than to fictionalize something as important as the 9/11 events, especially after the critical reviews the last pearl harbor movie received for their total disregard for historical accuracy.

The facts are "good enough" for this show, and any fictional parts should get cut out or "fixed".  This movie/show will become part of the event's historical record and ought to be accurate, not some made-up hollyweird version.
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« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2006, 10:07:11 PM »
Yes but is it enough for a political party to want it stopped?  Seriously....politicians not wanting "freedom of the press"?  Sounds alot like they want the simpletons to keep carrying on.  TV has allways dramatized events and reproced history in a fictionalized light.

I think it's scary that one political party would say they are for free speech but only certain kinds.

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« Reply #53 on: September 08, 2006, 10:14:16 PM »
I don't look at it as one political party trying to get the movie changed though...  It's a group of people who were making decisions during the lead-up to a horrifying national event, and politics aside, it only makes sense that they would want the truth to be told, not some made-up, more dramatic version of what happened.

I bet it would make better headlines if they had a cut-scene showing Clinton saying something to the effect of "bin-laden can't possibly hurt us", but is that the truth?  Politics has nothing to do with that sort of thing.  If it's not the truth and can't be backed up with factual data, it has no place in a movie about 9/11, period.  It's hard enough for the average person to comprehend the event without hollyweird making crap up and injecting it into the storyline.
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« Reply #54 on: September 09, 2006, 07:16:35 AM »
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
"Tell me republicans don't play the American people like a violin! How come a gas prices falling so fast? Nov. is fast approaching. Why rewrite history about 9/11? The truth is inconvient for them! How dispicable can one party be? Well, the party that brought us Watergate, Iran-Contra, and just look at Bush & Co and the crimes its been raking up!"

quote from huffpst on this subject today^^



The Huffington Post?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Oh boy, does THAT explain a lot!
The Huffington Post!!!!
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Please! Stop it! I can't take anymore! I'm laughing so hard it hurts!
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« Reply #55 on: September 09, 2006, 07:23:11 AM »
I'll judge it if and when I see it.

You do realize it's just a 6 hour docudrama, right?

They can't devote the entire six hours to exact reproductions of a couple of hundred hours of staff meetings from EITHER administration. They have a certain percentage of the time available in a 6 hour docudrama to give the viewer the feel of hours of meetings between members of each administration. They're giving their "Reader's Digest Condensed" version of those meetings.

If they make a mockery of it, they'll pay dearly, in any number of ways.
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« Reply #56 on: September 09, 2006, 07:55:25 AM »
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Yes but is it enough for a political party to want it stopped?  Seriously....politicians not wanting "freedom of the press"?  Sounds alot like they want the simpletons to keep carrying on.  TV has allways dramatized events and reproced history in a fictionalized light.

I think it's scary that one political party would say they are for free speech but only certain kinds.

"all animals are created equal, some more equal than others"


I'd say its enough. Particularly if some of the things portrayed about the administration werent true.

Look how often on these boards when a war movie is made we see people jumping up and down about how inaccurate it is right down to the smallest detail "That tiger  tank wasnt a tiger" etc.

Im with Clinton on this one also
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« Reply #57 on: September 09, 2006, 08:19:06 AM »
Sounds like they are going to show it after all.  Hey, like Dan Rather said about Bush, the memo may be fake, but the story is correct.   So, following liberal logic, the docudrama may not be entirely accurate, but we should believe the story anyway.  Or does that only work if it is painting a Republican badly?

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« Reply #58 on: September 09, 2006, 08:24:14 AM »
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
"Tell me republicans don't play the American people like a violin! How come a gas prices falling so fast? Nov. is fast approaching. Why rewrite history about 9/11? The truth is inconvient for them! How dispicable can one party be? Well, the party that brought us Watergate, Iran-Contra, and just look at Bush & Co and the crimes its been raking up!"

quote from huffpst on this subject today^^


Yea, we are gonna see massive propaganda before the elections.  Terror is going to be used on the american people.  There will be new videos, new threats, a bunch of thwarted 'terror plots'.  All implying that we may be killed if we dont vote Republican.  And ya know what, they scare the heck out of me:confused: .  Makes ya wonder who the real terrorist are eh?

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« Reply #59 on: September 09, 2006, 09:14:26 AM »
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Yea, we are gonna see massive propaganda before the elections.  Terror is going to be used on the american people.  There will be new videos, new threats, a bunch of thwarted 'terror plots'.  All implying that we may be killed if we dont vote Republican.  And ya know what, they scare the heck out of me:confused: .  Makes ya wonder who the real terrorist are eh?


The democrats have been the pc police for over 25 years now. I'd definitely characterize their tactics as terrorist.