Author Topic: ABC Chickens out (Read 2160 times)

Mightytboy · « **on:** September 08, 2006, 09:44:52 AM »

ABC folds under pressure on pointing out Clinton's hand in 9/11 attacks in upcoming show.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,212935,00.html

I'm suprised they even considered airing anything at all that has Clinton's name and 9/11 mentioned any where close together.

Everyone knows Clinton did everything he could to get Osama and that 9/11 was all Bush's fault.

Yeager · « **Reply #1 on:** September 08, 2006, 09:53:23 AM »

9/11 was an inside job. Everyone knows this. OBL and Cheney share a grandkid fer cryin out loud

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 08, 2006, 09:57:19 AM »

"I know there are some scenes where words are put in characters' mouths. But the whole thing is true to the spirit of 9/11."

True to the spirit of 9/11? Just like Pearl Harbor(2001) was true to the spirit of 12/7? ABC needs to stop selling this miniseries as if it is factual and just come out and say they just interlaced it with untruths for publicity and ratings. None one needs to spice of the events leading to 9/11 for better marketability.

The whole thing is embarrassing.

ChickenHawk · « **Reply #3 on:** September 08, 2006, 10:31:24 AM »

"For dramatic and narrative purposes, the movie contains fictionalized scenes, composite and representative characters and dialogue, and time compression," ABC said in its statement."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/07/911.film.clinton.offic.ap/index.html

What, 9/11 wasn't dramatic enough for TV? Give me a break.

Airscrew · « **Reply #4 on:** September 08, 2006, 10:33:34 AM »

In a statement released late Thursday, ABC said, "No one has seen the final version of the film, because the editing process is not yet complete, so criticisms of film specifics are premature and irresponsible."
of course they could just be back pedaling to cover their asses

"For dramatic and narrative purposes, the movie contains fictionalized scenes, composite and representative characters and dialogue, and time compression," ABC said in its statement. "We hope viewers will watch the entire broadcast of the finished film before forming an opinion about it."
kinda like Tora, Tora, Tora i think, except they waited 30 years

The miniseries is drawn from interviews and documents including the report of the Sept. 11 commission. ABC has described it as a "dramatization" as opposed to a documentary.

How bout we wait until someone actually sees this before we judge it?

Seagoon · « **Reply #5 on:** September 08, 2006, 10:59:23 AM »

The embarrassing thing is not that they were under pressure for the untruthful parts, the embarrassing thing is that they were Openly threatened by Senate Democrats with the pulling of their broadcast license because the series laid much of the blame for government missteps at the feet of the Clinton administration - especially in regards to his own admission that in 1996 they declined to take Osama from Sudan. Clinton's own excuse was that he had nothing to hold him on, but AQ was already implicated in the '93 bombing of WTC.

To quote from their own document about what they most disliked: "Frankly, that ABC and Disney would consider airing a program that could be construed as right-wing political propaganda on such a grave and important event involving the security of our nation is a discredit both to the Disney brand and to the legacy of honesty built at ABC by honorable individuals from David Brinkley to Peter Jennings. Furthermore, that Disney would seek to use Scholastic to promote this misguided programming to American children as a substitute for factual information is a disgrace."

The clear implication is that had it been more Michael Moore anti-Bush left wing political propaganda, it would have raised no complaints. This despite the fact that the series attacked the Bush administration as well. Apparently unless the Clinton administration is absolved of all responsibility, and all blame laid at the feet of the one year old Bush administration, no presentation can go forward.

To me, it was a clear misuse of government power for political purposes.

- SEAGOON

Birddogg · « **Reply #6 on:** September 08, 2006, 11:02:29 AM »

Inside job..

lukster · « **Reply #7 on:** September 08, 2006, 11:31:28 AM »

Bummer, I was looking forward to watching this.

Democrats trample the first amendment yet again.

midnight Target · « **Reply #8 on:** September 08, 2006, 11:35:08 AM »

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Originally posted by Seagoon
The embarrassing thing is not that they were under pressure for the untruthful parts, the embarrassing thing is that they were Openly threatened by Senate Democrats with the pulling of their broadcast license because the series laid much of the blame for government missteps at the feet of the Clinton administration - especially in regards to his own admission that in 1996 they declined to take Osama from Sudan. Clinton's own excuse was that he had nothing to hold him on, but AQ was already implicated in the '93 bombing of WTC.

To quote from their own document about what they most disliked: "Frankly, that ABC and Disney would consider airing a program that could be construed as right-wing political propaganda on such a grave and important event involving the security of our nation is a discredit both to the Disney brand and to the legacy of honesty built at ABC by honorable individuals from David Brinkley to Peter Jennings. Furthermore, that Disney would seek to use Scholastic to promote this misguided programming to American children as a substitute for factual information is a disgrace."

The clear implication is that had it been more Michael Moore anti-Bush left wing political propaganda, it would have raised no complaints. This despite the fact that the series attacked the Bush administration as well. Apparently unless the Clinton administration is absolved of all responsibility, and all blame laid at the feet of the one year old Bush administration, no presentation can go forward.

To me, it was a clear misuse of government power for political purposes.

- SEAGOON

Hehe.. Your logic is astounding. The implication that left wing propaganda would be OK is not clear at all.. except in your head.

xrtoronto · « **Reply #9 on:** September 08, 2006, 11:38:36 AM »

"Tell me republicans don't play the American people like a violin! How come a gas prices falling so fast? Nov. is fast approaching. Why rewrite history about 9/11? The truth is inconvient for them! How dispicable can one party be? Well, the party that brought us Watergate, Iran-Contra, and just look at Bush & Co and the crimes its been raking up!"

quote from huffpst on this subject today^^

Kaw1000 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 08, 2006, 11:41:27 AM »

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Originally posted by xrtoronto
"Tell me republicans don't play the American people like a violin! How come a gas prices falling so fast? Nov. is fast approaching. Why rewrite history about 9/11? The truth is inconvient for them! How dispicable can one party be? Well, the party that brought us Watergate, Iran-Contra, and just look at Bush & Co and the crimes its been raking up!"

quote from huffpst on this subject today^^

Is it a crime to kill the rag heads that are trying to kill us???
Go watch a Al gore global warming movie Dweeb!!

lukster · « **Reply #11 on:** September 08, 2006, 11:43:02 AM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Hehe.. Your logic is astounding. The implication that left wing propaganda would be OK is not clear at all.. except in your head.

Michael Moore's hateful lies are about as much propaganda as one can get away without losing absolutely everyone. I've seen his crap aired. No objection from Bush except that Moore should get a real job.

I guess it's irrefutable now that Bush supports the first amendment while Clinton and his cronies do not.

xrtoronto · « **Reply #12 on:** September 08, 2006, 11:48:53 AM »

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Originally posted by Kaw1000
Is it a crime to kill the rag heads that are trying to kill us???
Go watch a Al gore global warming movie Dweeb!!

thanks for the low-road name calling..

fact:you have no writing skills and debate very poorly

College educated?

(time to go back to your job at McD's, lunch is over)

john9001 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 08, 2006, 11:50:08 AM »

democrats favor censorship, libruls ignore 1st amendment, threaten to pull ABC's broadcast license. where is mikey moore when you need him? where is the ACLU?

i demand a congressional investigation.

of course, all the publicity will be good for ratings.

bill:: oh baby, yeah yeah.

ring ring.

bill:: this is the president ,---- what ?---- ben who?----- call me back, i'm bizzy right now.

xrtoronto · « **Reply #14 on:** September 08, 2006, 11:50:28 AM »

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Originally posted by lukster
Michael Moore's hateful lies are about as much propaganda as one can get away without losing absolutely everyone. I've seen his crap aired. No objection from Bush except that Moore should get a real job.

I guess it's irrefutable now that Bush supports the first amendment while Clinton and his cronies do not.

produce even 1 lie from f9/11 lukster