Author Topic: Arena format change  (Read 21789 times)

Offline GGhost

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« Reply #300 on: September 13, 2006, 08:39:05 PM »
I wonder if they relize that this is based on WW2. Not the late 50's,60's,70's, or 80's, 90's / Korea / Vietnam / Cold War programs. Later wars had less planes doing more work for one aircraft - multi-tasking. But modern planes could haul more bombs or weapons. And deal with more electronics / radar equipment. WW2 invasions deal with hundreds and thousands of planes in the air at one time. Some with less amounts of aircraft for recon support, etc. Amazing that I stood in county outside of Germany in a cementary in Lexumburg were 40,000 allied troops (34,000 Americans) fell in an invasion. 34,000 Germany troops fell. WW2 dealed with alot of invasion forces and multiple of planes because they could not haul the amount of ordance to drop alot of equipment and buildings.That is why its called an invasion or Invasion force. Look up Omaha Beach or the Battle of Britian, etc.
They finally listen to the tree huggers! They - (the tree huggers & cry baby's) - don't understand what WW2 invasion force is. The dumb prettythang need to get a clue and read some history books. Quite looking at the pictures. Has ACES HIGH ever talk to a WW2, Korea & Vietnam pilots. I have many times. I also work and restore WW2 , Korea & Vietnam war flying and nonflying aircraft in a museum.


I think the new arena changes stink. I joined and findly get use to some of the planes I like to fly and then you change the thing with us being able to fly with your squadron. You limit space & take away aircraft I enjoy flying. I don't like paying to be a ginnie pig! Not for any software producer! It would maybe be ok if you still have the main arena available. I see one plane I really enjoyed flying. That just sucks! I am going to give it a try. But I still may look at some other web sites

 - GGhost :furious
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« Reply #301 on: September 13, 2006, 08:39:58 PM »
I say we all STFU and play nice in hope that if we're really really gud we might get Korea :)

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What changed that made this necessary?
« Reply #302 on: September 13, 2006, 08:46:54 PM »
The announcement said:

Thanks to your patronage Aces High has grown to the point where a single Main Arena is no longer a sufficient solution. It is time for us to move beyond a single main arena.

Can we get some more info as to why this particular change was necessary?
I've been flying in here five years this week. I have never encountered a full arena. I don't haunt the forums, but I've never seen rampant complaints about service that would appear to be numbers related.  
I can't understand why my patronage has suddenly decreased the capacity of HTs servers?
Lately, (the last two weeks) I have encountered problems with FT. such as warping, etc. But in other bases I've seen no problems.

 I can't understand how a server that used to be able to handle 500+ folks a night can now only handle theaters divided up into 200 fliers per night.

I can't imagine HTC would willingly fragment its customer base _ a base that I think everyone would agree would list camaraderie and community as the main reasons they continue to fly year after year.
I also can't imagine that this was done on a whim or as some sort of an experiment.
I also wonder why we couldn't have waited until CT debuted to see what effect it had on reducing numbers in the main arena. If, as we have been told, CT is coming soon, won't that reduce the numbers in the main arena that our patronage have created?

So. can someone explain why this change was needed? I would be much more willing to accept change if I was given good reason other than some vague feel-good press release type info. I've always thought that HTC had great respect for their customers and their needs, I'm disappointed that such a big change was announced with the same type of "1984" type rhetoric.

What were the problems that led to this? Why is this the best solution possible? What other solutions were considered and why were they rejected?

I think those are all valid questions. And, as I am sure there were valid reasons for the decision being made, I like to hear them.

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« Reply #303 on: September 13, 2006, 08:49:13 PM »
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Originally posted by Nifty
Guys, if this turns out to be a bad idea, I'm sure Hitech and Pyro will revert back to the old arena and say "We screwed up, guys. We'll come up with another solution for our MA population issue."

As it is, give it a chance, it might work out.

Also, as someone said, the 109F-4 is more than capable of handling the Spit V.  Of course, it leaves very little choice in that arena. Those two planes will probably dominate.

Dude....this isn't about a solution to an over populated main. If so, they coulda capped the MA1 at 275 and the MA2 (remember that one?) at 275 players, left the full planeset in both MA's and the over populated main arena problem would have been solved. No, given what we do know, this is about being forced into someone elses idea of what is "Enjoyable" or what we should consider to be enjoyable and so on and so on.... Its a bad idea...and "I" will tell my entertainment provider what i like...not the reverse. I dont like it for several reasons..mainly because of its potential to cause division within squads due to Arena Caps. But mostly because it looks like an attempt to force some players to choose between flying what they dont like, be forced into a "Learning curve" (Different planes) or cancling their account. But i have more think about besides my "self" as a Squad CO don't I?

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« Reply #304 on: September 13, 2006, 08:49:25 PM »
LOL now i cant even fly all areas are full some have like 4 people in it wow.. just WOW i didn pay 15$ to sit and wait for room..



I love the idea HT just need to up the numbers 100 or 50 more

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« Reply #305 on: September 13, 2006, 08:51:48 PM »
Then you'd better tell all those companies who pay for market research they are being ripped off. They'd probably like to hear it.

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« Reply #306 on: September 13, 2006, 08:53:31 PM »
Squad?  Oh, yeah, I'm a member of one of the big ones.  Pity I can't FIND any of them, so I'm playing in an empty arena.

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« Reply #307 on: September 13, 2006, 08:54:36 PM »
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... cut one of the late war Arenas and combine them.  Or maybe cut the arenas to two... early-mid war, and mid to late war...


makes sense to me.

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« Reply #308 on: September 13, 2006, 08:55:23 PM »
The announcement said:

Thanks to your patronage Aces High has grown to the point where a single Main Arena is no longer a sufficient solution. It is time for us to move beyond a single main arena.

Can we get some more info as to why this particular change was necessary?
I've been flying in here five years this week. I have never encountered a full arena. I don't haunt the forums, but I've never seen rampant complaints about service that would appear to be numbers related.  
I can't understand why my patronage has suddenly decreased the capacity of HTs servers?
Lately, (the last two weeks) I have encountered problems with FT. such as warping, etc. But in other bases I've seen no problems.

 I can't understand how a server that used to be able to handle 500+ folks a night can now only handle theaters divided up into 200 fliers per night.

I can't imagine HTC would willingly fragment its customer base _ a base that I think everyone would agree would list camaraderie and community as the main reasons they continue to fly year after year.
I also can't imagine that this was done on a whim or as some sort of an experiment.
I also wonder why we couldn't have waited until CT debuted to see what effect it had on reducing numbers in the main arena. If, as we have been told, CT is coming soon, won't that reduce the numbers in the main arena that our patronage have created?

So. can someone explain why this change was needed? I would be much more willing to accept change if I was given good reason other than some vague feel-good press release type info. I've always thought that HTC had great respect for their customers and their needs, I'm disappointed that such a big change was announced with the same type of "1984" type rhetoric.

What were the problems that led to this? Why is this the best solution possible? What other solutions were considered and why were they rejected?

I think those are all valid questions. And, as I am sure there were valid reasons for the decision being made, I like to hear them.

Offline Mugzeee

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« Reply #309 on: September 13, 2006, 08:56:03 PM »
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Oh no not Change:O Not when I was getting so used to getting Hoed by newbs:mad: Please not that.......Anything but change. You go Hitech. It was getting pretty stale in the MA. I am actually looking forward to some flight time tonight :aok

You dont think you will get hoed now?:rolleyes:

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« Reply #310 on: September 13, 2006, 08:58:57 PM »
I was wondering why all posts critical of the change are being closed?
I thought this was the AH general discussion area? If you can't discuss a change as big as this, what's the point of a forum?

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« Reply #311 on: September 13, 2006, 08:59:05 PM »
No sir, I don't like it




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« Reply #312 on: September 13, 2006, 09:05:41 PM »
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I was wondering why all posts critical of the change are being closed?
I thought this was the AH general discussion area? If you can't discuss a change as big as this, what's the point of a forum?


You're free to discuss it all you want, that's why I opened this thread.  That doesn't mean you can open unlimited threads that duplicate the subject of this one or start flame-wars between each other.

You've opened two or three threads on this topic, just post to this one.   We'll read it.  Your previous ones are have been merged into here.

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« Reply #313 on: September 13, 2006, 09:09:11 PM »
had to leave for awhile and now the only aerna open only has 38 people. You are treating  people wrong HT, people who have been paying customer for years.
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« Reply #314 on: September 13, 2006, 09:10:48 PM »
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You know the concept of this dosn't really bother me but for a company who has so often said it dosn't want to split the community I must admit I'm astounded.

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