Arena format change

[baine1]

Well Roc that's why I'm surprised that this was just sprung on the community without any warning or asking for ideas. Did anyone out there think that things had gotten to such dire straights that such draconian changes were in order?


You make sudden, drastic changes that suddenly shut customers out of things that they are paying for because they enjoy and I guess you can expect some Pele-like kicks as the knees start jerking.

Going from one arena where you could always find one good furball and could usually also find an offensive rolling against an enemy base and a spirited defense against an enemy attack, to an arena where you might be only one of 20 or so people from your country is a real degradation in gameplay.

Add to that the fact that you might be shut out of an arena where most of your squaddies are happily battling the badguys and you can see why people are pissed.

This evenign I tried the new setup and couldn't find a good fight.
Early war arena, rooks swarming one base, no enemy coming up. Somebody parked his buffs in the middle of runway so anybody vulching runs the serious risk of being a killshoot victim. Lot of flying around in circles hoping one guy in his sbd will try to launch so he could get vulched by the rook horde.
Did manage 4 kills in a P38G during one flight, but not much fun
Late war arena. One rook base with any action going on, go to the tower and see the sky is lousy with red nikis. Where's everybody else, where's the opportunity for a coordinated offensive or a coordinated defense?
Why is gameplay a lot worse and finding a fight a lot more difficult then when I first signed up back in 2001?

I'd be a lot more willing to accept change if we'd received an explanation as to why the change was necessary, other than some vague "your continued patronage" thing.

[Dichotomy]

Originally posted by Mugzeee
So youve said.  again

And yet you obviously missed the premise.  Go back, read slowly, and see if you get the point.  If you don't I'll be happy to discuss it with you in pm's.

[Vad]

It will be disaster tomorrow morning!
Usually we have about 80-100 players early morning EST. 20 per arena, 6-7 per country, 3 in flight.... nice!

But even now it is absolutely terrible. Disbalance on all arenas is so huge that it makes almost impossible to play. Early war arena - 50% rooks and 20-30% knights and bish. Late war - 50% knights... It is obvious that ENY limits had to be adjusted, and turned on with much low values.

In general, I like this idea. But I think that as the first step it would be better to have 2 arenas for early and late war planes, and ENY limiter should be adjusted.

[Simaril]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
.....snip....
Or, more likely, he's just doing it to piss you guys off. Obviously, he's pretty new to this type of game, and he probably made all of these changes without any thought as to ramifications and issues that might arise. In fact, he probably did this late last night while violently drunk, and I'm sure if he gets another few "**** this, this is BS, I'm cancelling my account" emails, he'll change it back to the way it's been, so that he can continue to receive those emails from other customers who like the change.

You competeing for Lazs' job?

[999000]

I whish someone could explain the "upside" to these changes because I have a firm grasp of the obvious and the "down side" is significant and damaging.
This will have a dramatic impact on game play.....mostly in a negative manner!
What really bothers me is that the players could  and have come up with many really cool neat ideas that have been share about how the game could be better....but we get this.........almost a suicidal act!
I really can't explain how disturb I find this change! I play the game to get away from all the stupid stuff in the real world...only to find someone left the back door open!
Put what ever spin you want on it.... but your going to be busier that a herd of cats in a cat box!
Thanks For what WAS the best game.
999000

[Scrap]

You aren't stick stirring to get away from a/an anymore.

[dtango]

Just tried getting on.  I have to say that one of the main reasons I fly is to fly with my squad mates.  Some of us have spent the last 5 years together while others have come and gone.  The ones that have remained are bonded by core common values and interests - mainly P-51's and close teamplay working very tightly as wingman in the air.  We've spent the last 5 years forging both our skills and esprit de corps as a band of brothers.

The current arena setup really creates several critical dilemmas for squads like the one I'm in.  (1) Because of our interest in the Mustang the cap limits on the late war arenas are forcing a split of the squad since one of the late war arenas is completely filled while the other isn't.  (2) We need a way to find each other - a) to be able to see if any squad mates are logged on and which arena they are in, b) we need to be able to message each other in real time so that we can move from a maxed out arena to a non-maxed out arena to bring the squad together.  Under the current setup a Squad MOTD message will not be enough.

Will HTC consider ways of solving these issues a priority?

Tango, XO
412th FS Braunco Mustangs

[999000]

SIMARIL IS DEAD RIGHT...HITECH PYRO READ WHAT HE'S SAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!
"If you divide the community ..you destroy it!"
999000

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Sure Guppy... everyone wants to fly the same birds all the time in each squad...

There is nothing good for squads in this change.

Why is there nothing good?  And how is it you speak for all squads?  There are lots of planes to fly. Why does it have to be the same?

Why not rotate arenas for the change?  

What I don't get is that all this whining isn't going to do any good.  Why not make the best of it and try something different.

It's like a bunch of addicts who can't get their fix of LA7s and Spit XVIs and they're freaking out.

As far as the contacting the squad thing goes.

The 80th has a squad forum on these boards.  I assume most other squads do to.
 
My question to the guys was what arena do you prefer?  General consensus was the mid-war but the bottom line is guys said the fun was flying with the squad so they'd go wherever.  So we went mid-war.  We also decided to stick it out for a bit to see how things played out.  The potential for the positive from this far outweighs the negative in my mind.

Bottom line is this is just a game.  You spend all of 15 bucks a month on it.  Not a whole lot.  If it ticks you off that much, pocket your 15 bucks and do something else.  

But I'd suggest remembering it's all about having fun and there are many ways to have fun in the game.  Folks just need to relax and let things settle a bit.

No one really died that I can see

[plasticman1973]

I am putting forth a Federal endictment on High Tech for this Criminal behavior.

I am pretty sure that they are feeling this way like it is making the evening news.  

If anybody has seen the Passion of the Christ, all the disgruntled players in this game crucifying HT remind me of the high Jewish Priest in the movie saying "crucify him...." to Jesus in the film.

I like the idea for equality.  But it is not working out because of the reasons of what everyone else has posted.

HT for trying something different.

[999000]

Grumpy if you don't learn from history it will repeat itself...the game could die!
999000

[USRanger]

Would people have been happier with this?:

The good ol' MA
A GV only tanktown arena
A fighter-only furball arena
AvA
Training
DA

Since we weren't asked prior to this crap, I thought I'd throw it out.  I'd love a TT arena, and I know a lot of you boisterous (BK) players would love a permanent FT arena.  MA ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!This sux:(

[Dichotomy]

okay explain to me why my CC bill says $16.02 every month and the rest of you are paying $15?  Is it because I'm a horrible stick or what?

*vain attempt to lighten the mood

[plasticman1973]

But if there is a suggestion, I still nominate 999000 as AHII announcer with Bboop and Shawk the color commentators.   Now THAT"S entertainment:aok

SEraider

[Dichotomy]

Originally posted by plasticman1973
I am putting forth a Federal endictment on High Tech for this Criminal behavior.

I am pretty sure that they are feeling this way like it is making the evening news.  

If anybody has seen the Passion of the Christ, all the disgruntled players in this game crucifying HT remind me of the high Jewish Priest in the movie saying "crucify him...." to Jesus in the film.

I like the idea for equality.  But it is not working out because of the reasons of what everyone else has posted.

HT for trying something different.

don't you realize that declaring a jihad is en vogue these days? .. sheesh